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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
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    Montegomery County, MD, USA
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    Default Queenless in July

    To all,

    I am new to the beekeeping and TBH this year. Over the past two weeks, I have noticed a decline in activity and have diagnosed the loss of the queen:

    1. No brood
    2. Very little honey
    3. Lots of drones
    4. Decreased activity
    5. Few and scattered drone cells
    6. No queen cells

    I have gotten advice from several Langstrom hive experts on what to do.

    A. Just let the hive naturally decline and try again in the spring
    B. Get a fertilized queen now and feed the bees lots and lots of syrup (about 100 lbs!); get rid of the laying worker by moving the hive and clearing out all the bees
    C. Find a nuc and try to install the new bees

    I am willing to try any reasonable approach but have gotten advice from only beekeepers not into TBH.

    Any advice will be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    Randy

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Moyock, NC, USA
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    Default Re: Queenless in July

    I would say get the new queen in there asap. this way you can build some population before winter.
    However, the high drone ratio usually means a bad queen or a laying worker. Either one of these must be rectified before the hive will accept a new queen.
    anything you can do in a lang, you can do in a TBH just think of it as sideways. TBH rules are loosely applied. It is just a different shaped box.
    Unless you have big numbers you might not have enough bees when winter comes if no new bees are born.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Winhall, VT
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    Default Re: Queenless in July

    If you have determined that you don't have a laying worker and still have a decent population of bees throw a queen in there if you want to save them.
    Raising Vermont Bees one mistake at a time.
    USDA Zone 5A

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
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    Montegomery County, MD, USA
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    Default Re: Queenless in July

    Today, things have gotten worse. The number of bees has dwindled significantly over the past few days. I don't think that I will have enough bees to support a new queen.

    What now?

    Pack it in for the year?
    Try to get a package and feed like crazy?
    Other?

    Thanks!

    Randy

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Kingsville, OH
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    Default Re: Queenless in July

    Randy: Mark it up as experience. Clean out your hive and put them away. Try to order a Nuc next spring,,maybe two would be beter. You could have maybe saved your hive if you would have had a good hive to take brood frames from.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    North Pole, Alaska
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    Default Re: Queenless in July

    why not make this a nuc instead of ordering one? Move the follower to create a nuc tbh, requeen and let them go see what happens. Afterall whats 20 bucks to give it a shot and some feed?

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