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    Default building my own frames

    I got the plans for building my own frames from the build it yourself part of this website.I am an exp. woodworker,but i am perplexed,the end bars are 3/8in thick which doesn't leave much room for screws thru the top bar or nails thru the sides,my question is ...can someone tell me how their storebought frames are assembelled?

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    Default Re: building my own frames

    I use Titebond II or III glue... and 1 1/4" x 1/4" crown staples. Each endbar receives two staples down through the topbar, one through the side angled upward into the topbar and one or two through the bottom bar. Eight to ten staples per frame, and glue.
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    I'm going to have BeeCurious assemble my frames from now on!
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    Default Re: building my own frames

    Quote Originally Posted by jjimgee View Post
    ...can someone tell me how their storebought frames are assembelled?
    It is a mystery! You could just use a top part - it would be called "top bar" and do not bother with the rest... I saw somewhere on this forum that people use 20(!) staples per frame... Sergey

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    I assemble mine the same as Bee Curious. 2, 1 1/4 crown staples down from the top (each side), 2 from the side into the top bar,(one each side) 4 into the divided bottom bars. Titebond 3 all joints. I only assemble about 1200 per year. ( I sell 100-125 hives each year so I have to assemble frames for each box) I assemble during the winter, using a simple jig to hold the frames straight during assembly, and use a Hitachi crown stapler.

    I guess that is 10 per frame.

    cchoganjr

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    Default Re: building my own frames

    [QUOTE=Cleo C. Hogan Jr;824835]I assemble mine the same as Bee Curious. 2, 1 1/4 crown staples down from the top (each side), 2 from the side into the top bar,(one each side) 4 into the divided bottom bars. Titebond 3 all joints. I only assemble about 1200 per year. ( I sell 100-125 hives each year so I have to assemble frames for each box) I assemble during the winter, using a simple jig to hold the frames straight during assembly, and use a Hitachi crown stapler.

    I guess that is 10 per frame.

    I only assemble a few hundred a year. I use one nail each side from the top and bottom ( 4 in total) and use Titebond 3.
    I can't recall a frame failing on me. I wonder if to many nails or staples may actually weaken the wood? Something to calculate or test.
    I have a few frames in use which have only been glued - an experiment at this stage but so far so good

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    Max2...You may be right... Can't recall where I read it, but, someone did a study that said, Titebond, or other suitable glue alone was all that is needed. In fact, they recommended a jig to hold 10 frames, and for the hobbiest, simply place in the jig and glue, allow to sit overnight. No nails or staples at all. Of course a commercialist would need several jigs to assemble lots of frames in a short period of time.

    I too, have not had a frame to fail, so I don't know what is the proper thing to do. Don't have any data on this, but, I think I would rather have glue than just nails, but, a combination of both is probably better.

    I guess just do whatever works for you.

    cchoganjr

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    Default Re: building my own frames

    I am a new beekeeper and i use titebond and 7/8 coated nails 1 top and bottom and 2 on the horizontal of the side bars. i tried different ways , but they all seem strong

    Ben

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