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  1. #1
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    Exclamation people Stealing Honey!!!!

    Well it seems as though there is a big concern about people stealing honey from hives in my country, Is this a big problem in the states?
    What can be done to stop this?
    Open to suggestions......

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    I have hives in several community gardens here in SF that I have to chain down mostly due to vandalism, not honey theft. I don't think it's a huge problem here.
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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    It is not so much of a problem here in the U.S., because we still have guns and lots of them!!!

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    probably not alot can be done other than choosing locations where they are not easily seen, considering the hives are africanized any one stealing honey is probably not going to be stopped by a chain or lock either, probably not much of a problem over here but honey isnt valued as high either.

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    Set up a game camera, get pictures of the thieves, find them and prosecute them.
    LeeB
    I try to learn from my mistakes, and from yours when you give me a heads up :)

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    Theft of hives in the US is very rare. Not many people know how to handle bees so they are not going to attempt to steal a hive or honey. Some commercial operations have had entire yards stolen, but it is suspected that competitors are responsible.

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    Stealing honey is one thing, stealing the brood another.

    There was a guy around here who sold all of his hives one Fall. The next Spring, before swarm season, he had collected 30 "swarms" (what he said). When the new owner went to work his hives, living a cpl hours away, he noticed a number of hives w/ empty combs in the middle of what should have been the brood nest. Hard to prove anbything. Easier to move the bees. Which is too bad, because he wanted the locations too.

    keeper,
    I heard that the Adees were called to come get some of their hives from an Almond Grower, because the grower wanted to spray and the bloom was long gone. Adees didn't have a contract w/ the almond grower. Apparently someone picked up some hives and took them to the almonds. No one knows who.

    I have also heard of people stealing tractor trailer loads of almonds right out of the groves. Beehives go missing too, at a different time of year.
    Mark Berninghausen "That which works, persists."

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    How about a sign that says "The honey in one of these hives is poison. You guess which one..."
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    If you are running 80,000 hives like Adees claims I imagine it can be hard to keep track of them all. I think some situation are instances of the trucking companies picking up the wrong hives unknowingly.

    On a hobby level hive theft is really rare here; if compared to other parts of the world.

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    How about a sign that says "The honey in one of these hives is poison. You guess which one..."
    A friend of mine set a trap for a bear one time, which I thought a bad idea. But I'm really glad he told me about it before I went on my own to Inspect his hives. He had a rig set up to fire off a shotgun shell when a hive, outside the bear fence, was disturbed. I can just imagine someone opening that hive and getting their head blown off. I never went to that yd and never went to any of his yds w/out him.
    Mark Berninghausen "That which works, persists."

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    How about a sign that says "The honey in one of these hives is poison. You guess which one..."
    The honey bandit might place a second sign saying "I couldn't guess, so I poisoned a second hive. Now you guess."

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    I sure wouldn't want to booby trap a hove with a shotgun shell: You never know who might be hurt by it or why.

    On the other hand if a small proportion of the honey supers were weighted with sand to appear full, and booby trapped with a pepper spray grenade
    (http://www.thehomesecuritysuperstore...ade-22gr-p=822)
    no one would get seriously hurt, and any thief who got sprayed would seriously think twice before robbing your yards again.

    Most likely, he'd pick a lower-risk yard than yours after that.
    Last edited by Beregondo; 06-28-2012 at 08:20 AM. Reason: typos

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    Brand all your equip. Boxes, top and bottoms and frames.
    Old Guy in Alabama

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    I suppose the only legal thing to do is buy insurance.
    Brian Cardinal
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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    staple the hive boxes together and screw the lids down. not convenient for checking but unless your thief brought a cordless drill with him, pardon the pun, he's screwed! I like the wildlife camera idea too, catch them in the act. they are motion activated and can do video and or still pictures. I'd put up a sign first that read you are under surveliance and will be prosecuted for trespassing. I hate thieves...

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    Wait a minute, aren't we the beekeeper the real thieves?

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    And most of all make sure the honey is branded.

    Personally, I'd look into a trail cam.

    Quote Originally Posted by jrbbees View Post
    Brand all your equip. Boxes, top and bottoms and frames.

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kristen beck View Post
    staple the hive boxes together and screw the lids down.
    A latch could be made or purchased that would hold the boxes together. Mounted on the inside you would have to remove the cover to unlatch it for inspections. Using a lock that requires a master key for the lid might be an alternative to the screws.
    Brian Cardinal
    Zone 5a, Practicing non-intervention beekeeping

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    doubt a picture or video of someone in a bee suit would be of much help identifing who it was however if you could get there vehicle on it maybe.

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    Default Re: people Stealing Honey!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by jim lyon View Post
    Wait a minute, aren't we the beekeeper the real thieves?
    We do steal the honey from the bees.
    Mark Berninghausen "That which works, persists."

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