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  1. #1
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    Default Laying Worker/Queen Introduction

    Okay, I got a Package from Parson's Gold Apiary, installed it in a TBH, released the queen, and now I'm queenless and have laying workers *Ouch* There is a shaker method to get rid of the laying workers (rather not do that If it can be helped). Is there any way I can just introduce a new queen in a cage, and have them accept her and stop the laying workers. I've been a beekeeper for 10 years so avoid the baby-talk, this is just the first time I've ever dealt with a laying worker.

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    Default Re: Laying Worker/Queen Introduction

    >There is a shaker method to get rid of the laying workers (rather not do that If it can be helped).

    It does not work anyway.

    > Is there any way I can just introduce a new queen in a cage, and have them accept her and stop the laying workers.

    Not really.

    > I've been a beekeeper for 10 years so avoid the baby-talk, this is just the first time I've ever dealt with a laying worker.

    http://www.bushfarms.com/beeslayingworkers.htm
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beespanacea.htm
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Laying Worker/Queen Introduction

    I ( very respectufly) disagree with Michael, We have had no problems doing just a normal introduction with a good queen into a hive with a laying worker. I have done it 3-4 times this year, and probably 50 times total.. not had any issues I can recall.

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    Default Re: Laying Worker/Queen Introduction

    A frame of open brood goes a long ways in suppressing laying worker ovaries and helps balance age demographics. In addition to adding brood, exchanging positions with a queenright hive will help immensely. The returning field bees will not tolerate laying workers and will root them out for you.

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    Default Re: Laying Worker/Queen Introduction

    Gmcharlie,

    I had a laying worker hive earlier in the season - first one of my beekeeping career. I gave three frames of brood over three weeks until they started making queen cells. I cut out the queen cells and introduced a caged queen. I allowed the bees to release her on their own and believe it or not they still killed her. I'm 0 for 1 on the laying worker hives and from now on plan to just shake them out. They will just strengthen another hive and it will save me money, time, and aggravation.

    It sounds like you are doing something very special to get them to accept queens that easily.

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    Default Re: Laying Worker/Queen Introduction

    why did you do it that way? seems a bit odd to wait for 3 weeks for a queen cell, and then introduce a laying queen? should have let them finish the cells out and mate the new cells. not sure why you went that route?
    Any way, some hives will kill almost any queen at times. once in a while they go on a binge and want to make honey and won't tolerate a queen. The absolute best way if you can is to introduce a frame of larve and the new queen at the same time. You may be 0-1 and You can try anything you like, I run about 100 hives and don't use any special tricks at all.

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