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  1. #1
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    Default How to Use Radial Extractor

    We rented a radial extractor last year, Maxant 3100, I think. We were excited to use it as a radial extractor, but it really didn't work well, so we finished using it as a tangential extractor. We loved it, and I've since looked into buying it or the power 20F. I totally get that it was probably user error. In talking to a local store, I asked what the secret was, and he said you have to let them spin for at least 30 minutes.

    I did a search on here, but is there a thread about how to use radial extractors? I get that experiences vary, with honey thickness, temp etc, but how long should I expect to run each set of frames? While one set is spinning, we can uncap the next, but what do you do with the frames, between uncapping and extracting? Put them back into supers?

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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    30 minutes?????? Thats rediculous and would put beekeepers out of business!! Number one thing is to make sure that the outside temps are high (or build a large enough box to heat with a plug in heater and put supers in to warm up) and they will spin out just fine. I did mine on a 90 degree day last year and it took maybe a couple minutes to spin the frames out radially.

    Im no expert by any means, but extracting radially has worked fine for me if the temps are right!
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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    Power or hand crank?
    Most people dont spin it fast enough towards the end of the cycle.
    Ideally 12- 16 minutes will be ample.
    Dont be afraid to " put the pedal to the metal"
    You can also put a lightbulb under the extractor to aid with warming it up. A good
    old 60 watt will work wonders.
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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    Quote Originally Posted by MAXANT View Post
    You can also put a lightbulb under the extractor to aid with warming it up. A good
    old 60 watt will work wonders.
    Hmmmm, never thought of that!! Will have to try that!! Thanks for that tip MAXANT! That is, if it eventually cools down around here!!
    Coyote Creek Bees

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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    I run my 3100P real slow for about 5-10 minutes which is about as long as it takes to sip a nice cool glass of white wine. I feel the slow start helps to even out the weight and prevent a bit of the wobble. Then I put the "pedal to the metal" for another 5-10 minutes and game over. Great product.
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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    I have never used an extractor, but I have watched some youtube videos where people have loaded the frames with the top bar towards the center of the extractor, and it seems to me that they should be loaded with the top bar to the outside of the extractor due to the angle of the cells. Is this correct?

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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    Top bars to the outside.

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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    Quote Originally Posted by oldfordguy View Post
    I have never used an extractor, but I have watched some youtube videos where people have loaded the frames with the top bar towards the center of the extractor, and it seems to me that they should be loaded with the top bar to the outside of the extractor due to the angle of the cells. Is this correct?
    yes.

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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    Is there a significant yield difference between, say running the extractor for 5 minutes verses running it for 20 minutes? My radiel extractor is hand crank (3:1 ratio) and the frames are pretty empty after just a few minutes, though it is 90+ outside.

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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    Quote Originally Posted by MAXANT View Post
    Power or hand crank?
    ...
    Dont be afraid to " put the pedal to the metal"
    It was power. The guy we rented it from told us not to put the power past the red mark (he had added it), which was around 3/4 of the way, so I bet that is what the problem was.

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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    Yea......he is going to have A LOT of customers with the same problem then, and also beating up that motor by running it at lower speeds for a longer time frame.
    After 6 minutes in the variable mode, flip it to full speed and let it do its magic at FULL RPM!
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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    Quote Originally Posted by MAXANT View Post
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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    Please, don't anyone take this the wrong way, Maxant is a GREAT company, and for all I know, Maxant may make the 9 frame radial that W T Kelly sells, I don't know,(I have had mine for years), but, It doesn't take anywhere near 12 to 16 minutes to extract frames, (shallow or medium) ( It won't extract deeps), with the Kelly 9 frame, (motorized) radial.

    I only load 6 frames into the 9 frame radial, and no more than 3-4 minutes and they are done. The reason I put 6 in the extractor is, that is the amount of time it takes me to uncap 6 more frames, (30-45 seconds per frame) and hang them in the uncapping tub. (the uncapping tub only holds 6 frames), Same amount of time it takes to spin the six frames in the 9 frame (motorized) radial extractor.

    I don't make a lot of honey, 125-175 gallons each year) because I sell bees. Splitting and stealing honey to put in nucs does not allow them to make a lot of excess honey, but, I let about 10 beekeepers use my setup, and at 12-16 minutes, they would never get done extracting.

    My advice on using the radial is to put fewer frames in the extractor than the maximum amount of frames it will hold. It will just work better. It will start slow enough to sling initial honey from the frames, then build speed to clear the cells of honey, and sling honey from the frame woodenware. Virtually no blowout ever.

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    Last edited by Cleo C. Hogan Jr; 06-21-2012 at 07:36 AM. Reason: additional info

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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    Im with you on that! When I use that extractor I only do 6 at a whack. Much quicker for me.
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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    My advice is to warm the frames of honey. I use an empty super, place a 60W trouble lamp in it and put a super of full frames above that and cover with a piece of plywood. Warm for an hour plus.

    Otherwise, it's slow and you can easily rip chunks of comb off the foundation.
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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    How to Use Radial Extractor:

    You take the old frames out,
    You put the new frames in,
    You put the new frames in and you spin 'em all about.
    You do the Hokey Pokey while you spin em all around,
    That's what it's all about!
    Last edited by snl; 06-21-2012 at 01:21 PM.
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    Default Re: How to Use Radial Extractor

    I prefer to do the hokey pokey before uncapping, then proceed.
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