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  1. #101
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    Best idea yet - the upside down pvc is doable....this is bomb proof....you da man, Holiday

  2. #102
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    Here's the same hive stand from my post #45 last December. Grease is still holding strong with no touch-up needed.

    June 2013.jpg
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  3. #103
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    Hey Guys.....no master Pro around here....any other suggestions? BTW, had to pay $24 for a small bottle of high temp stuff around here, and I mean small. Help appreciated.

    Jim

  4. #104
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Given View Post
    Hey Guys.....no master Pro around here....any other suggestions? BTW, had to pay $24 for a small bottle of high temp stuff around here, and I mean small. Help appreciated.

    Jim
    Did you check walmart? I bought a can of High-temp grease in the automotive section and it is great. Shoot, I want to say ~$7!?! It's their generic brand, the "equate" of automotive products... Blue/Black labeling... Hope this helps. I haven't had anyone make it across the puddles of grease yet...and I hope they will not! The stuff stands up to the heat too (as it should), no liquifying or pooling.

  5. #105
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    Master Pro has worked the best for me but I would think any high temp bearing/brake grease would work. The cost here is about $7 bucks a can. The high temp is important for summer months so it doesn't run down the legs of the hive stand.
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  6. #106
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    June 24 and NO ANTS!
    You da man CharlieB!!!

  7. #107
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    Quote Originally Posted by efaure View Post
    Did you check walmart? I bought a can of High-temp grease in the automotive section and it is great. Shoot, I want to say ~$7!?! It's their generic brand, the "equate" of automotive products... Blue/Black labeling... Hope this helps. I haven't had anyone make it across the puddles of grease yet...and I hope they will not! The stuff stands up to the heat too (as it should), no liquifying or pooling.
    Thank you will check!!!

  8. #108
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    CharlieB,
    The stand has problems in gumbo during rainy season ...

    Sorry not one of the links in PhotoBucket works here and I have tried uploading from the computer twice but 4 gig file and no joy...
    Last edited by mmmooretx; 11-11-2013 at 06:33 PM.
    Mike
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  9. #109
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    Hi all, and to Holiday, this method with the cinnamon and pvc worked well last spring. i used it again in early fall for feeding and didn't see any ants except for 2 that drowned. so they got in but didn't get out! our 1st season, fingers crossed for winter. We actually got 1/4 frame of honey since nothing was going on in top super so we removed it and salvaged the honey for us yummy!!

  10. #110
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    Tex,

    What do you mean?
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  11. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmooretx View Post
    CharlieB,
    The stand has problems in gumbo during rainy season ....
    Here is a sad looking hive stand photo from mmmooretx's Photobucket album:



    (Michael, once you have the image on the screen at Photobucket, copy the link called "IMG". Then come to your Beesource message and paste the link directly in your message. No need to use the "Insert Image" button on the toolbar.)


    Its probably a good thing that sinkhole is under the hive stand, and not the house foundation!
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

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    Oops, soggy bottom. That happen to me when my Mother-in-Law left the sprinkler on when she left for a two week vacation and one leg sunk. I had to re-sink the legs in concrete like a fence post after the ground dried.
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  13. #113
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    wide cinderblock verticals on top of pond liner, horizontal pipes. Put antblock UNDER the pond liner, axle grease on the pipes, does ok.
    Time to be a gypsy again, 2014 will be my prep year, my bees want a better area with actual rainfall.

  14. #114
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    I had the same thing happen to me in Missouri clay. In December the stand fell backward and dumped 4 hives.
    We had 3 days of rain before this happened then very windy the day it fell over. The design is good to keep ants out though.
    I set it back upright and restacked the hives and prayed I didn't kill the queen in the process.
    It was 35 degrees and windy when I found them. After I set the stand back up I sandwiched it
    between 4 Tposts until warmer weather. I plan to then wider the hole and concreting the pipes in.

  15. #115
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    After one of my legs sunk, I took the opportunity during a hive inspection to re-sink the pipe legs in concrete. Much more stable now. I would suggest everyone do that who has my design
    during your next hive inspection while you have the boxes apart.
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  16. #116
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    As usual, good advice CharlieB.

  17. #117
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    how small does a pic have to be to upload?
    Time to be a gypsy again, 2014 will be my prep year, my bees want a better area with actual rainfall.

  18. #118
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsi View Post
    how small does a pic have to be to upload?
    I have no idea, try to upload and reduce as necessary -

    Awhile back I asked Charlie B about ant proofing- I took what I found for me to be the path of least resistance. I went to Lowes and bought pressure treated wood, bought 4 orange ($3 each) 5 gallon buckets, made 4 legs from the wood; took the buckets placed each leg in a bucket and filled them 1/2 way with water-
    Now I have hives that should I choose to change location are aptly constructed.

  19. #119
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    > how small does a pic have to be to upload?

    If you want to use the Beesource image attachment feature, maximum image file size is 195 KB; 800 by 800 pixels. If you use a service that hosts images elsewhere and then link them here, file size doesn't matter, but you do risk Barry's ire if you post inline images (automatically displayed) that grossly exceed the approved pixel limits.
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

  20. #120
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    Default Re: My Ant Proof Hive Stand Actually Works!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rader Sidetrack View Post
    Here is a sad looking hive stand photo from mmmooretx's Photobucket album:
    That is what I was expecting. Another problem might be the 1 inch or even the 1 1/2 inch pipe snapping off at the threads of legs with just two legs and a wind load on the hives. It would be much better to use 4 legs where two were connected in a "U" shape. I think the "T" is an accident waiting to happen.
    Brian Cardinal
    Zone 5a, Practicing non-intervention beekeeping

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