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  1. #1
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    Default Any harm with Mineral Oil fogging ?

    I have been watching "The Fat Beeman." and have a question. If your fog with Mineral Oil, with or without Essential Oils, will that not harm the bees as well. Insects are killed by oil fogs by blocking their means of respiration. How is this sufficient to kill mites, but not bees ?? Will using the Essential oils make this more or less likely to happen ?? I have had good effects with OVA, but this sounds even quicker. Any input would be appreciated.

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    Default Re: Any harm with Mineral Oil fogging ?

    The only harm is probably you fooling yourself into thinking that it is effective.

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    Default Re: Any harm with Mineral Oil fogging ?

    Read this thread and I am sure you will find the answers you seek.
    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...ighlight=glock
    Bill...in Southeast Ohio Zone 6A

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    Default Re: Any harm with Mineral Oil fogging ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jwcarlson View Post
    The only harm is probably you fooling yourself into thinking that it is effective.


    Plus the oil coats the bees and I've heard they can't clean it off. It is very ineffective and possibly harms the bees. OAV is very easy on the bees, hard on the mites.
    Beekeeping 2 Years - 8 Italian Hives - 3 Carniolans - All 8-Frame Mediums - Treatment OAV Only

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    Default Re: Any harm with Mineral Oil fogging ?

    I REALLY wish FatBeeMan would take down that old video. Even he doesn't fog anymore. He sells his own vaporizers!

    Rusty
    Rusty Hills Farm -- home of AQHA A Rusty Zipper and Rusty's Bees.

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    Default Re: Any harm with Mineral Oil fogging ?

    deja vu. Didn't this same question come up last week? FGMO fogging covers everything in the hive with mineral oil. Think spraying fruit trees with horticultural oil. The scale, coddling moth eggs, etc. get covered with oil, can't breathe, and die.
    Last edited by GaryG74; 10-02-2015 at 09:03 PM. Reason: correct spelling
    "Sometimes the best action is no action at all."
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    Default Re: Any harm with Mineral Oil fogging ?

    FGMO is petroleum. Why would you want it in your hive?

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    Default Re: Any harm with Mineral Oil fogging ?

    The mineral oil fog blocks the respiratory entrances of the varroa and trachael mites because their entrancs are so small. Honey bees have two entrances and are much bigger than the mites. Does not harm the bees.

    "FGMO is petroleum. Why would you want it in your hive?" Is OAV any better to have in the hive?

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    Default Re: Any harm with Mineral Oil fogging ?

    Any action the beekeeper does carries a certain risk. Some actions carry a potential reward. The trick is to choose those actions that carry the most reward for the risk incurred.

    Read the thread linked in post #3. What you will see is a mineral oil user eventually discovering that FGMO fogging is not very effective in controlling mites. And then he switched to vaporizing oxalic acid, and is very pleased with the results.

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    Default Re: Any harm with Mineral Oil fogging ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Beeman View Post
    "FGMO is petroleum. Why would you want it in your hive?" Is OAV any better to have in the hive?
    OAV is infinitely better than FGMO, in that it kills mites and does no harm the brood, bees or queen. FGMO fogging has very dubious benefits (if any)....
    http://OxaVap.com Your source for the Varrox Mite Killing
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