Results 1 to 12 of 12
  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Merseyside, UK
    Posts
    55

    Default How do you stop a captured swarm from reswarming?

    Last week I captured a swarm. Within the hour it had reswarmed. Is there anything I can do to stop this happening in the future. I have heard that some beekeepers 'lock' the bees in for a day. Would this work? Any advice appreciated.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Lander, WY
    Posts
    261

    Default Re: How do you stop a captured swarm from reswarming?

    I lock them in overnight, in a well ventilated NUC, screened bottom entrance (not screened bottom board), top screened ventilation holes. I give them a frame of honey and nectar which seems to anchor them. Some folks give a frame of brood. Of the 7 swarms caught this spring only one left, the only one I had not give a frame of food, oversight.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Yukon, Oklahoma
    Posts
    150

    Default Re: How do you stop a captured swarm from reswarming?

    I am willyC, but we will put a 1:1 syrup feeder on top for them and 1/2 pollen patty inside on top of the frames. Then the next morning we open up the front and haven't lost a swarm doing this way. The only 2 swarms we lost were ones we didn't close up and started feeding immediately.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    KC, MO, USA
    Posts
    1,074

    Default Re: How do you stop a captured swarm from reswarming?

    Listed in order

    The best thing to keep a swarm is open brood. I will bet it is >95% successful. I have used pieces of drone brood with success. If you have brood and eggs even better yet they can make a queen if they need one.

    If you can position your box for the swarm to walk in on their own you will have better luck.

    A drop of LGO might also help a bit.

    Close them up for a short time could help(make sure they have air flow), no need to close them up when its dark they won’t leave at night.

    If you can find the queen cage her might help.

    If the hive is too hot they could leave

    I had heard that a frame of food and they can refill and swarm again.
    Last edited by FlowerPlanter; 06-07-2012 at 02:14 PM.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    jackson county, alabama, usa
    Posts
    4,238

    Default Re: How do you stop a captured swarm from reswarming?

    i had three out of three stay this year with a frame of mixed brood.
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

  6. #6
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Concord, CA
    Posts
    4,077

    Default Re: How do you stop a captured swarm from reswarming?

    All we do is give them a frame of brood to take care of. Works very well.
    Dan

  7. #7
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Lander, WY
    Posts
    261

    Default Re: How do you stop a captured swarm from reswarming?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerPlanter View Post
    I had heard that a frame of food and they can refill and swarm again.
    My experience is contrary to this, I have never had them leave a hive with a frame of honey and nectar, but thats just 10 swarms over two years.
    The only one that left was not given a comb.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Evansville, IN
    Posts
    2,456

    Default Re: How do you stop a captured swarm from reswarming?

    So far we are two for two on using a nucleus hive (not a cardboard nuc, a standard hive) with a full set of frames, including an old brood comb.

    The bees jump right in, start fanning at once, and in one case even started ro orient on the hive as soon as we closed it up.

    Old brood comb, a proper hive rather than a cardboard box, and a bit of swarm lure (LGO, gremanium, and lemon oil 10:2:1) and they will very likey stay put.

    This year we have been having huge swarms (six to nine pounds of bees), so you might want to take a standard hive with you as well -- hard to get six pounds of bees into a nuc!

    Still, once in a while you will get one that simply won't stay put, those hopefully will find a nice place in the wild and produce another swarm for you next year.

    Peter

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Drain, OR
    Posts
    424

    Default Re: How do you stop a captured swarm from reswarming?

    I've only collected a few swarms, but none have left. I gathered them in a cardboard box of some type, and when I wanted to move it I closed it off, vented, etc.. Then when I hived them, I did it just before dusk.. So far so good.. Seems easier though, when they swarm into your equipment
    A backyard hobbyist, keeping hives since '09. ~ http://www.sweetthangchocolates.com
    Zone 8a/8b

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Dexter, Maine
    Posts
    1,037

    Default Re: How do you stop a captured swarm from reswarming?

    I have read a study that showed swarm bees given any drawn comb do not draw as much comb as a swarm that has to build everything on their own. I give only foundation, and upon hiving them I put a queen excluder on the entrance, they are not leaving without the queen. Sometimes I cage the queen, then if I want a different queen it's very easy to do.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Louisville Kentucky USA
    Posts
    458

    Default Re: How do you stop a captured swarm from reswarming?

    First swarm I picked up this year I had to put them in a deep of drawn comb(didnt have any foundation ready).There were so many bees in there that I added another deep of drawn comb the next morning.Picked them up on a Sunday afternoon and by Wed. they filled both deeps full of nectar.I was afriad they would get honey bound so I added 2 honey supers.To make a long story short,within a month I had 2 capped supers of honey which I extracted and put back on. They promptly refilled them in the next 3 weeks and are still capping some.I added another super just to get the comb drawn.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    jackson county, alabama, usa
    Posts
    4,238

    Default Re: How do you stop a captured swarm from reswarming?

    it's amazing how much a large swarm can do if caught early in the main flow. i had a friend who had a similar experience to yours hemichuck.
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Ads