Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Amador County, California, USA
    Posts
    138

    Default Nicot System Problem

    I placed the queen inside the box where she lays. A day later, I got the eggs, put them in a top bar frame and put the top bar frame into a queenless hive.

    A day after that, I noticed there were only 3 eggs remaining on the top bar frame, and bees were starting to make a queen cell around them. I went through the hive and noticed there were exactly 7 queen cells on other frames...

    Is this normal? Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

    Mike

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Auburn, Washington, USA
    Posts
    302

    Default Re: Nicot System Problem

    Well, to start with the instructions say to wait 72 hours. Secondly, they will remove eggs in the cell builder, but will not remove larvae.

    But even after 72 hours I still had only eggs and not hatched larvae in my Nicot cage. I think that bees remove eggs from the cups, and the queen lays again in them although I have nothing to substiate it with, other than a bunch of unhatched eggs after 72 hours. I thought that maybe removing the queen from the cage might let the eggs hatch untouched, but I think Mike Bush mentioned that the cage without the queen is of little interest to bees, so they will abandon the eggs. I appologize if I misquoted.

    I ended up just using chinese instrument and grafting the larvae into the cups. I mostly care about the haircurler cages in this system.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Huntsville, Alabama
    Posts
    674

    Default Re: Nicot System Problem

    I use the NICOT system. You placed the eggs into the cell builder too fast. Once you notice eggs, let the queen loose and come back 48 hours later. Look in the cups and see if there is a dab of royal jelly in the bottom. If there is, then the cell builder hive will turn them into queen cells. If you place eggs with no royal jelly, the cell builder hive will haul the eggs out. PM me and I will send you an Excel calendar on times to do each step.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Nehawka, Nebraska USA
    Posts
    43,610

    Default Re: Nicot System Problem

    I could never get them to build cells from eggs. Here's my calendar:

    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesqueenrearing.htm#calendar
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Auburn, Washington, USA
    Posts
    302

    Default Re: Nicot System Problem

    Mike, question about the picture on your website with queen in multisectioned boxes. YOu have blue fabric between the boxes, is that the only thing that separates the boxes, or is there a plywood sheet also?

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Nehawka, Nebraska USA
    Posts
    43,610

    Default Re: Nicot System Problem

    Each box has a plywood bottom and fabric on top. The top box has a migratory cover on it. The wall between each section is a 3/4" board.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Huntsville, Alabama
    Posts
    674

    Default Re: Nicot System Problem

    Well, I have to say...I feel pretty dang special if I can get the NICOT system to work really well and Mr. Bush couldn't. That's a first!

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Nehawka, Nebraska USA
    Posts
    43,610

    Default Re: Nicot System Problem

    I get my Jenter (don't have a Nicot) to work quite well if I transfer larvae, but I have not had any luck with eggs. Alley seemed to think you could get them to do it from the egg and I assume he has some success since he reared a lot of queens and claimed that was his method and yet he used the description "grub or egg".

    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesalleyme...or_queen-cells
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Huntsville, Alabama
    Posts
    674

    Default Re: Nicot System Problem

    I figured that's what you meant, Michael...thanks for bursting my bubble!!! haha!

  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Amador County, California, USA
    Posts
    138

    Default Re: Nicot System Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by theriverhawk View Post
    I use the NICOT system. You placed the eggs into the cell builder too fast. Once you notice eggs, let the queen loose and come back 48 hours later. Look in the cups and see if there is a dab of royal jelly in the bottom. If there is, then the cell builder hive will turn them into queen cells. If you place eggs with no royal jelly, the cell builder hive will haul the eggs out. PM me and I will send you an Excel calendar on times to do each step.
    ---

    Thanks for replying. I guess that's what happened. Fortunately, some eggs remained and now I have 3 queen cells. But I need more. I want to requeen all my hives this year.

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Ads