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  1. #1
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    Default Long Creek Apiaries

    I ws a fool and never researched Long Creek Apiaries and placed an order for 1 package of Russian bees back in January of this year. They were to ship to me this week. I checked the site to see if shipping was still on schedule only to find he is out of business! eeek! Typing "long creek" into google brings up numerous complaints and now I feel like a fool. I left messages by email and phone but by the looks of other's luck I am probably 129.00 poorer, huh? Anyone have any suggestions for recourse here? I have a friend who is a good lawyer - worth it or no?
    thanks - from now on I will check here first!
    Kerri

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    Default Re: Long Creek Apiaries

    Sorry to hear that. Some credit card companies will work with you, but I guess you sent a check, right? Ask you friend their thoughts. One package would not be worth my time fighting for, but that's me.

    If you are just getting into beeking, the good news is that you did not want those mean, runny, swarming Russian bees anyway!

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    Default Re: Long Creek Apiaries

    Thank you for your reply. Yes, paid by check:-(
    Learned my lesson the hard way I guess! Thankfully it is only 1 package for me - looks like others had it way worse.
    Good to know you are not a fan of Russians (I guess - since I didn't get them anyway. lol) but I always heard they were better winter-ers and since we get tough winters here in Chardon, Ohio I thought I would give them a try!
    Thanks again....
    Kerri

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    Default Re: Long Creek Apiaries

    Quote Originally Posted by klbowden View Post
    I ws a fool and never researched Long Creek Apiaries and placed an order for 1 package of Russian bees back in January of this year. They were to ship to me this week. I checked the site to see if shipping was still on schedule only to find he is out of business! eeek! Typing "long creek" into google brings up numerous complaints and now I feel like a fool. I left messages by email and phone but by the looks of other's luck I am probably 129.00 poorer, huh? Anyone have any suggestions for recourse here? I have a friend who is a good lawyer - worth it or no?
    thanks - from now on I will check here first!
    Kerri
    If you do not get your package
    I think this now falls under mail fraud, you can do something about it.
    heres what i found and there is tons of other info

    MAIL FRAUD

    18 U.S.C. 1341, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to use the United States mails in carrying out a scheme to defraud.

    A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved: First: That the person knowingly and willfully devised a scheme to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false pretenses, representations or promises; and Second: That the person used the United States Postal Service by mailing, or by causing to be mailed, some matter or thing for the purpose of executing the scheme to defraud

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    Default Re: Long Creek Apiaries

    Wasn't the thread on this business closed already since they are out of business?

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    Exclamation Re: Long Creek Apiaries

    FYI TO ALL:
    As of May 7, 2012, Long Creek Apiaries has now been placed on the Tennessee Division of Consumer Affairs 'BUYERS BEWARE LIST'.

    "Companies that fail to respond to a notice that a complaint has been received by our office are placed on the Buyer Beware List for a period of three years from the date the complaint is closed."

    link here:

    BUYER BEWARE TENNESSEE


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    Default Re: Long Creek Apiaries

    It is so sad he claims all his problems are the result of gm's.

    Anyway, all the beeks that got the short end of the stick need to get together to take legal action. On package here, three there are not worth it but 100 people times 10 to 20 dollars per nuc or package should be enough to take some legal action and put a good judgment and lean on his assets. I personally would try to do so if I were one of those who got the shaft.

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    Default Re: Long Creek Apiaries

    IN ADDITION, FROM TENNESSEE’S WEBSITE REGARDING THE BUYER BEWARE LIST GUIDELINES(above link from my previous post) IN PART:

    What qualifies a business or individual to be listed on the Buyer Beware list?

    1. A response was received but resolution was not provided as promised in writing. (The
    Division, not the consumer, will make the determination if the business or individual did
    not correct or address the complaint.)

    2. A company or individual that appears to be conducting business without the required
    license or registration to engage in such business or profession

    3. Businesses and individuals may also be listed if legal proceedings are in process that
    indicate suspicious activity.

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    Default Long Creek Apiaries: Will we ever see our REFUNDS?

    I thought I would wake a sleeping bear, David do you ever think that you are going to repay what you owe to me and many others? You have stated many times how you are going to repay all in full. You are saying that Long Creek Apiaries is out of business, does that mean you are washing your hands of all responsability to all the hard working Beeks that sent their money to you, believing they would receive package bees? I wonder if you have a problem waking every day,and facing the fact that good hard working Beeks have nothing to show for their hard earned money. Personally I'm looking for around a $900 refund. I'll bet you have that in your checking account...

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    Default Re: Long Creek Apiaries: Will we ever see our REFUNDS?

    submit claim to postal inspectors
    if paid by credit card submit claim

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    Default Long Creek Apiaries

    I am wondering if the is any new information about Mr. Winters. After many promises over the last couple of years I have received several promises and nothing else. I would like any information that would help me to "rattle his cage" and get my money back.

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    Default Re: Long Creek Apiaries

    I wish I was in tennessee, I would go knock on his door and see what he has to offer. To answer your question i think he has had his cage rattlled,but he keeps playing opossum

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