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  1. #1
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    Default Been really busy with the bees, and now have questions!!

    Hey everyone!

    So ive been catching swarms and did a cut out recently, adding to my hive count. Its been fun!

    So here are the good, the bad, and the ugly!!

    Good- All my swarm hives are building comb like mad on the foundationless frames (love them a lot better than the plastic ones!) and they are coming along really good. One of the queens I seen was HUGE, biggest one ive seen so far, looked like a stink beetle crawling around on the comb!

    The bad- The cut out bees absconded the same day I placed them in the bee yard. Oh well.

    The ugly- checked my other single deep hives that were queenless for eggs (after adding eggs/brood weeks ago) and a couple are doing good and a couple are not. One hive as far as I can tell had single eggs placed in the bottom of the cells, but everything I see capped are drones..........im assuming its a drone laying queen, although I didnt find her.

    Another hive was testy and I didnt see any queen cells or even cells that were torn down from the frames of eggs I gave them a few weeks ago. Think i'll add another frame of brood/eggs tomorrow and see if they build queen cells.

    All in all things are going good and I have trippled my hive count since January!!

    Heres a question, can I find the drone laying queen, kill her and combine the hive with another hive? I am pretty sure that its a queenrite hive and not a laying worker hive.
    Coyote Creek Bees

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    Default Re: Been really busy with the bees, and now have questions!!

    If you can find her it will be an easy combine. You might also put that box over a queen excluder over a queenright box and I bet most of the bees will abandon her for the good smelling queen! That will make her a lot easier to find and liminate.

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    Default Re: Been really busy with the bees, and now have questions!!

    Vance,

    You don't think there's a possibility that the workers on top will cross the excluder and kill the good queen?
    President, San Francisco Beekeepers Association
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    Default Re: Been really busy with the bees, and now have questions!!

    They very rarely do when you do a combine without news paper I think if the queen is excluded from rapidly entering strangers territory her court will be more than able to protect her from the other faction.

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    Default Re: Been really busy with the bees, and now have questions!!

    Vance, what would happen if you did a newspaper combine in that situation? Personally I'm just kind of nervous about doing a combine without using newspaper. But hey! I like to learn.
    Regards,
    Steven
    "If all you have is a hammer, the whole world is a nail." - A.H. Maslow

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    Default Re: Been really busy with the bees, and now have questions!!

    Little update:

    I had the time today so i completely went through all my hives and also moved them to a new stand and cleaned up the apiary a bit with the weed eater, great day in the bee yard!!

    Anyhow, the one hive that I thought had a drone laying queen, well, its a laying worker hive. Upon closer inspection I seen eggs on the side of the comb, and some cells with multiple eggs. I am going to do what Vance suggested and add a frame of brood every week until they finally make a queen and the laying worker is gone, thanks for the info Vance!

    The other cranky hive also received a frame of eggs/larva to attempt to make a queen again, just incase they didnt succeed last time, I didnt see any eggs, but the Virgin may also be mating and hasnt layed yet, anyhow, they will either make a new queen or get a boost from the frame of eggs.

    All my swarm hives are doing great, infact, I caught another swarm last night and added them to the yard as well. Been a great year to increase numbers!!
    Coyote Creek Bees

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