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  1. #1
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    Question New queen: Many eggs per cell.

    This is a hive with only five medium frames drawn out so far. They only have about 1 pound of bees. The queen is laying at least 5 eggs in each cell. There are EGGS EVERYWHERE. The eggs are in the bottom of each cell.
    It was a brand new queen we ordered. Today I found 2 queen cells, the queens had emerged and it looks like one of them was killed, there was one laying outside the hive near the entrance barely moving. So the original queen is still in the hive laying eggs everywhere.

    Is the queen a good queen that just doesn't have enough space to lay eggs?


    These topics below suggest that this may be the case. But I want to make sure before I replace this queen.
    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...enright-colony
    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...-multiple-eggs
    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...th-a-new-queen
    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...-eggs-per-cell

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    Default Re: New queen: Many eggs per cell.

    sounds like you have a laying worker. She could be kiling the virgin queens.
    Last edited by Barry; 05-01-2012 at 07:14 AM. Reason: quoting

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    Default Re: New queen: Many eggs per cell.

    In the bottom seems like a laying queen. Five seems like laying workers.

    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesfallacies.htm#doubleeggs
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beeslayingworkers.htm
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: New queen: Many eggs per cell.

    I got the mated queen and package from Wilbanks, and always get good queens from them, but nothings perfect. So why would there be a laying worker develop even though they already have a queen present? If it is a laying worker, why doesn't the laying worker kill the already existing queen?

    When I first installed the package, MOST of the workers drifted into a nearby hive, so that is why they are only occupying 5 medium frames now.

    I might just end up doing this to the hive:

    "Shakeout and forget

    In my opinion there are only two practical solutions. The simplest solution if you have several hives and especially if the laying worker hive is a long trip, is just shake all the bees in front of the various other hives and divvy all the combs out to the other hives. This is my preferred method for an outyard or a small hive. It doesn't waste your time and money trying to requeen a hive that is going to reject the queen anyway. This is the method of least time spent on interventions and most predictable outcome. " from : http://www.bushfarms.com/beeslayingworkers.htm


    Edited to ask: Is the original queen still good to use for a new hive?
    Last edited by samak; 05-01-2012 at 11:31 AM.

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    Default Re: New queen: Many eggs per cell.

    If she is very new, it could happen. While raising queens I have witnessed one queen that, after just a few days from mating, was laying eggs everywhere. As she walked along she was dropping eggs. There were anywhere from 1-5 eggs in the cells and eggs all over the edges of cells. Within a couple of days she had figured it out and was a good queen from then on.

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    Default Re: New queen: Many eggs per cell.

    If you see a queen, I would guess there are no laying workers or they would have killed her. I have seen a lot of doubles and a few triples from a new queen. Five seems excessive, but if you see her, then you have a queen and she will probably straighten out.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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