Looks pretty good...glad I had faith in your powers of observation too...since I WON!!!
BTW, I designed a bee-vac that can hold top bars/frames and function as a (temporary) hive...so I can drop the cut-out combs back into the vac with the bees...then not have to be in any particular hurry to re-hive them
P.M. or email me if you want designs.
Thanks for the plans you sent, robherc. Much appreciated.
By the way, as my new cut-out hive stands, There is plenty of activity going in-and-out - I even saw a forager with pollen on her legs coming in this evening.
But I am assuming the other portion of the hive is still acting in a swarm-mode because they are still balled-up around (I'm praying) the queen in a top corner.
From what I understand, comb should start emerging from within that ball within the next couple of weeks.
Is there any other reason they'd be balled-up in a top corner like that? We did but a couple of drops of lemongrass oil in that hive during the cut-out, but I doubt they'd be balled-up around just that scent area, right?
I have a queen, don't I?
Please tell me I have a queen and my hive is going to make it.
Are there any support groups for coping with failed post-cut-outs?
If there is a support group, please send me the details...I need it after the cutout we did last week.
Trying very hard not to kill the bees faster than they can reproduce.
Do you have a link to any details? ....or can you post the details here? Would love to hear about it.
It doesn't have anything to do with THIS thread, does it?
(yikes, this is pretty scathing)
Bee Removal is not for IDIOTS
By the way, your signature line at the bottom is hilarious.
Oh and another thing I forgot to mention about my cut-out bees is they seem disinterested in honey at this point. I realize they are in a stressful transitional period, but geez.
They ARE drinking water, however.
As seen in the video, I placed the honey/water in a small bowl with sticks behind the follower-board (that has a hole in it for them to pass through). I haven't seen any bees consuming it nor has the level gone down.
As an experiment, thinking that perhaps they just didn't think to crawl through that hole, I placed a small splash of honey on the entrance ramp towards the evening time. I sat there for about 10 minutes and didn't see any takers.
Could this be because maybe they gorged on honey when we did the cut-out? But they didn't even really have any honey.
My guess is that it's just a stressful transition period. But they seem chill now and have seemed that way the entire operation. We didn't get head-butted even once during all of that. It seemed like they almost welcomed our arrival. They are definitely a sweet set of bees. I hope they survive with that queen. But hey, I guess sweet bees don't necessarily equal strong survival genes.
There's already comb being built in that ball...they usually start within hours!Originally Posted by PatBeek
As far as "swarm mode" or why they're in that ball...it's called "festooning" look it up in the new Glossary that Barry's asking us to all donate photos for & you'll see a pic of about 40-50 of my girls festooning off a comb guide Festooning is how they build the combs.
You might, and you might not...either way, if you spliced in a good amount of brood comb, it doesn't really matter. They can make a new queen for themselves as long as there's one single (fertilized) egg, or appropriately aged larva, in the hive! (makes 'em fairly resilient that way)Originally Posted by PatBeek
As far as support groups go, I think the worst thing to do is give them more brood comb than they can cover...I lost the first several hives I got from cut-outs because I spliced in more comb than I had bees for (before I started using my vac), then the SHB and WM moved in, not to mention the RIFA...and the bees either died off, or absconded. Now I keep more bees alive with my vac, and I make sure to not splice in too much comb for the # of bees I got...painful lesson, but well learned!
Yes, Ive heard of festooning, but I always thought of that term meaning when they make that chain to measure-out and/or draw-out comb.......but I'm a newb, so I appreciate that info.
And as far as adding more brood comb with eggs so they can raise a queen, .............wellllllllll......this is my first and only hive. Hopefully - if the queen isn't there - they already had some eggs to work with. I haven't studied the comb in detail because I want to leave them alone and let them do their thing. My pal Robert who accompanied me on this cut-out recommended that if no brood comb starts emerging after about 2-3 weeks, then just get a new queen.
And point well taken on handing a hive too much brood. If they can't handle the chore, I can see how predators can move in and wreak havoc. You can have too much of a good thing, obviously, in that case.
But one more point about that ball-of-bees you say are festooning (and I'll leave this alone because I realize this is a cut-out thread) - that ball has been there ever since we were doing the cut-out. That's why I'm hopeful the queen is in there.
Regarding the post-problems I'm having with larvae, I moved that party to the following thread I just started so as to not get too off-topic in this thread:
Do I disturb the comb-building to kill these last two wax moth larvae? (photo)
So basically, real quick, I went in today and found the larvae had exploded in the comb I tried to salvage. I did a complete house-cleaning (so I thought) and threw away all the existing comb. There are two larvae left where they are building comb right smack up against the follower board.
Here's a photo, but the discussion for that aspect is over there now:
Folks, I took some decisive action today.
The following photos speak for themselves:
Ahhhhh, look how beautiful - gettin' busy, building their own comb, wax-moth-larvae-free:
I must apologize because the initial pictures I showed at the beginning of the whole thread didn't tell the whole story of the wall that the bees were in. It was an honest mistake on my part.
The photos didn't show how much the dormer window wall extended outward from the exterior wall.
Here is a more telling photo:
So therefore, due to my lack-of-experience with surveying a site, I kinda misled some of you as far as how the house and wall are constructed.
Sorry about that.
You all didn't have the big picture (no pun intended).
I also snapped a bunch of photos of the event.
Here are some that I thought might be of interest:
Room ready to go:
Trying to get an exact location. This was to the right of the stud and the insulation was in the way anyhow:
The first cut we made missed to the right of the stud and hive......no biggie though:
Comb riddled with wax moth larvae - all was trashed a few days later:
A couple of shots of the bees in the wall after most of the comb was removed:
They had some queen cups being built. Were they blaming the old queen for the infestation?....or perhaps running out of space?
Here are a couple of photos of bees gathering at the soffit after the removal was winding-down. Robert had placed silicone in the bee access areas. Robert says - in his experience - that the bees eat through caulk but stay away from silicone.