I finally found the clover on line where it did not cost an arm and a leg to ship it. So i ordered 20 lbs, it should be here next week, just in time, our last frost is over and I already plowed and cultimulched a couple of acres to give this a try. I'm in zone 5 so it should grow ok here if it grows up in zone 4. If this goes good, I have 25 acres to put into this next fall or early spring.