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    Default Hubam Clover

    I finally found the clover on line where it did not cost an arm and a leg to ship it. So i ordered 20 lbs, it should be here next week, just in time, our last frost is over and I already plowed and cultimulched a couple of acres to give this a try. I'm in zone 5 so it should grow ok here if it grows up in zone 4. If this goes good, I have 25 acres to put into this next fall or early spring.

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    Default Re: Hubam Clover

    Quote Originally Posted by scokat View Post
    I finally found the clover on line where it did not cost an arm and a leg to ship it. So i ordered 20 lbs, it should be here next week, just in time, our last frost is over and I already plowed and cultimulched a couple of acres to give this a try. I'm in zone 5 so it should grow ok here if it grows up in zone 4. If this goes good, I have 25 acres to put into this next fall or early spring.
    Throw a couple of lbs of Phacelia in with it and you will be impressed with the results. Phacelia will produce before the Hubam and so you can have even longer flow. You can get Phacelia from Wildseeds TX

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    Default Re: Hubam Clover

    Where did you get your hubam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beerbee View Post
    Where did you get your hubam?
    http://www.geneticseed.com/comm_viewproduct.aspx?ID=138

    He will get you cheap shipping.

    Also abseed has it by lb.

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    Default Re: Hubam Clover

    Remember you can probably plant again after it flowers for a fall flow

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    Default Re: Hubam Clover

    got my seed from dk seed, the cheapest for shipping. from tx to ny

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    I am a newbee in Amarillo, TX getting my bees in about two weeks. I have a couple of patches of white clover about 100 feet from where my hive will be. I just notices some areas of the clover infested with aphids. Any suggestions on how to eliminate this peat and not harm the bees with any residual or systemic insecticide spray?

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    Spray a thick oil solution for aphids. Oil as in a natural food oil like peanut oil. Aphids are soft bodied and breathe thru their skin. Just don't hit bees direct and it will not hurt the honeybees at all. We use it in our organic farming with good results!

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    real soap in a sprayer not detergent... again aphids are soft bodied you can spray with oil which coats them and smothers them as they breath through thier skin or wash them in soap which removes thier natural oils and dries them out... i like the soap better then the oil and a bee in oil dies and bee in soap water just dries herself off and does her hair afterwards. oil on the lawn also looks bad.

    Daniel
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    Default Re: Hubam Clover

    Quote Originally Posted by scokat View Post
    got my seed from dk seed, the cheapest for shipping. from tx to ny
    Last February, Max Wimmer from DK Seed Co. $149.95 plus $33 shipping to TN. The shipping has probably gone up some I am not sure if the price of the seed has or not.

    http://www.dkseeds.com/our-products/Wildlife/clovers

    I am trying the yellow sweet clover that is being sold on this forum this year that is about 1/3 the price. Yellow sweet clover is closely related to Hubam clover and has similar traits.

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    Default Re: Hubam Clover

    Does Hubam clover come back every year after planting or do you sow it every year? Does it have to be cut at end of season to come back the following year?

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    >Does Hubam clover come back every year after planting or do you sow it every year?

    It is an annual. If you let it go to seed, it comes back. If you cut it before it goes to seed and you never let it go to seed, there will be a lot less the next year. (just what seed was left that hadn't germinated the year before).

    >Does it have to be cut at end of season to come back the following year?

    I don't think it has to be. I cut it. Otherwise it's slow to get the sun back on the soil in the spring to get things going.
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    Default Re: Hubam Clover

    Any preference between yellow sweet clover (Melilotus officinalis) or white sweet clover (Melilotus alba). Think it too late to plant in the south? Looks like some good stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljbee View Post
    Any preference between yellow sweet clover (Melilotus officinalis) or white sweet clover (Melilotus alba). Think it too late to plant in the south? Looks like some good stuff
    I was told the yellow one is "better". They don't start flowering exactly at the same time, though. All we've got here is the white kind growing wild, and the bees love it. If I were to plant some, I'd try to sow both kinds. Along with alsike clover, birdsfoot trefoil, and vetch. Plus perhaps some other legumes, depending on the soil, and other non-legume broadleaves.
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    Default Re: Hubam Clover

    yes I'll try both and see which one does best. I don't know anyone growing it around here. I have some Ladino clover and buckwheat planted right now

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