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  1. #1
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    Default Selling honey with another beekeeper

    I helped someone get started with bees a few years back. We have discussed off and on about selling honey from his place with a self service stand. He lives on a busy road so the traffic is there. I live in a subdivision that does not have traffic. I would have to build the self service stand which is fine by me. We would put a sign out front advertising local honey. Has anyone ever done a partnership like this and how did it work out. I would definitely like to push more honey in order to expand my empire or at least help support my beekeeping habit. Thanks for anyone's help.

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    I know a beekeeper who does it this way he does not even use a lock box. my brother in new England tried self serve for vegetables at his house about 3 miles from the family farm store. it was a disaster. every thing stolen as soon as he turned his back, cash boxes stolen, cash box padlocked to shelf: shelf ripped out and gone. local police unable to help. many people have had success with this but try it and see.

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    I've has expensive tools stolen from me WHILE I was using them. You are actually advertising to be robbed if you do this. The easiest thing I have ever done is sell honey. My first year selling, I sold every drop (at a premium) and could have sold five times more if I had it. Once the word got out, it disappeared. I have never had any left over, never advertised, and never put up a booth or stand.
    It takes a family to raise a family, it takes a village to really screw that up... Djei5

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    In over 30 years I have only been robbed twice. Neighbor boy was one, he got a whopping and had to work for me free for two weeks. Nicest kid in the neighborhood now.
    As far as partnering, I have my honey in three locations besides the house stand.

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    Where I live, there are too many rotten toothed meth heads that wont work and are waiting to steal you blind. You would get robbed just on principle here tomkat!
    It takes a family to raise a family, it takes a village to really screw that up... Djei5

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by djei5 View Post
    Where I live, there are too many rotten toothed meth heads that wont work and are waiting to steal you blind. You would get robbed just on principle here tomkat!
    Note to self - cancel vacation plans to Elizabethton, TN

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by Salesi View Post
    Note to self - cancel vacation plans to Elizabethton, TN
    LOL, actually a beautiful place to visit, only about two hours from Gatlinburg.
    Two years ago I was looking to buy a house, I go into a foreclosed home and the meth zombies had cut all the copper plumbing out of the basement.

    I was born in Waukegan, Il. it isn't any better.
    Other hobby is reloading a lot off bullets....I don't have problems very close...
    It takes a family to raise a family, it takes a village to really screw that up... Djei5

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    You probably won't have a problem most of the time. But, it only takes one incident to make it hurt.

    It has been a long time since I have been to Elwood. I imagine things have changed a lot. My family farms just north of Wilmington. There was a day we had our PYO tomato fields bring in $200 on a good day self-serve. We would only do it during soybean harvest. I suppose we could have lost some money, more likely bushels of tomatoes not being paid for.

    Tom

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by djei5 View Post
    LOL, actually a beautiful place to visit, only about two hours from Gatlinburg.
    Two years ago I was looking to buy a house, I go into a foreclosed home and the meth zombies had cut all the copper plumbing out of the basement.

    I was born in Waukegan, Il. it isn't any better.
    Other hobby is reloading a lot off bullets....I don't have problems very close...
    I was raised in Grayslake, IL not far from the big metropolis of Waukegan.

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    I just did a trap out in Wilmington, IL. Elwood has not changed much but ever since they built the intermodal facility just West, it is nothing but truck traffic. We are thinking about moving somewhere else.

    Quote Originally Posted by TWall View Post
    You probably won't have a problem most of the time. But, it only takes one incident to make it hurt.

    It has been a long time since I have been to Elwood. I imagine things have changed a lot. My family farms just north of Wilmington. There was a day we had our PYO tomato fields bring in $200 on a good day self-serve. We would only do it during soybean harvest. I suppose we could have lost some money, more likely bushels of tomatoes not being paid for.

    Tom

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    Is your biggest concern theft from the stand or dealing with the partnership?
    Horseshoe Point Honey -- http://localvahoney.com/

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    I have around a dozen bee hives at a friends place, he also has four hives. I hate to accuse him but all of his hives are booming like I've never seen ,three to four supers on each of his hives! His are all loaded with bees like a good hive should be. (1st year hives) I have been beekeeping for four years now so I am not green to this! It sure seems fishy to me that his are all booming and mine are not doing as well at all! Has anyone ever had this problem with a partner? I think he is shaking bees or newspaper splitting when I'm not around. All of my hives have drawn comb in then and new queens. I also have two hives at my house that are doing great! But the ones at his place, I'm not sure if some will even make it through the winter now! I can't imagine that he would do that to me but mine were booming a couple months ago and his suddenly picked up pace??? Hmmmmm any replies please!!!

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    Question Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    got mites?, got the same bees, Italian vs. Russian? got old or weakly mated queens?

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    No mites, new queens, all same bees, no diseases, normal activity, as mine diminished his mistily started booming

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    last weekend I was out of state visiting my brother who is a pretty good crop and vegetable farmer. he told me about a story he had heard about a commercial beekeeper who he had heard snuck into orchards at night and lured queens out of their hives with a special trap so the bees would all follow out by morning. I said bees do not fly at night and they get nasty if you disturb them, the whole story is amish-hot rod exaust particles. I think you might be jumping to a misguided conclusion???

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    drifting for some reason, not likely a conspiracy.

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray1 View Post
    No mites, new queens, all same bees, no diseases, normal activity, as mine diminished his mistily started booming
    Same frames in hives?
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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    All of my hives are established and have great brood production and his are all first year hives , that is what is raising the eyebrow here , four first year hives with two deeps and three to four honey supers each litterally overflowing with bees when you take the cover off? At 1400 eggs per day maximum that's 42000 bees cycling on a lifespan of 28-40 days , these four hives of his pry have a quarter million bees in them each mathematically a single queen cannot possibly rear those kind of numbers at 1200-1500 eggs per day! And some of my hives look like package starts to say the least! I've been keeping bees for four years now so I can tell when things don't look rite! And it don't look rite!!! It's funny that my other two hives at my house are perfectly normal looking with two deeps and three supers and have the normal 40000-70000 population and the ones down at his place are 1/4 to 1/2 the populations what they should be from my experience!

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    Time for a game camera in the tree to see him take your frames.

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    Default Re: Selling honey with another beekeeper

    Game Camera , Sounds like a good idea! I think you really gotta watch who you keep bees with! When money is involved people can get greedy!! He keeps talking about 5 gallon buckets for $300 bucks! I'll be lucky to get any honey off of any of my hives at his place, lesson learned! My bees will come home soon!

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