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    Default Africanized bees found in Tennessee



    http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/17366021...east-tennessee

    Just ran across this by accident. Apparently we have our first confirmed case of partially africanized bees in TN.

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    Wonder how they got there? More to this story IMHO.

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick 1456 View Post
    Wonder how they got there?
    Quote -"The bee colony was purchased by the beekeeper last year from an out-of-state dealer".

    Wonder who that was?
    "We don't need no education" (Pink Floyd) - Yes you do, you just used a double negative.

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    That's the same story they're running on the Knoxville news (Channel 8).


    Good advice at the bottom for Africanized bees: run.

    I don't know what would be worse, bee stings or cpr from running.

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    I wonder how long until they evolve and end up as far north as Canada.
    Zone 7A - Southern, MA. Elevation 138 ft.
    4 hives: 1 Carniolan/Italian Hybrid, 2 Swarms from that hive and 1 Russian.

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    ...out-of-state dealer".

    Wonder who that was?
    It could happen to any producer just a little farther south - all it would take is a few African drones in the right place at the right time.

    If we keep having winters this mild it could get to be a real problem.

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    I've had Russianized bees, and I certainly don't want anything worse, or maybe they aren't. Please keep them South of the border, the Ky. border that is.
    So much to learn, so little time!!

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    Hey folks, I'm a Texan, and I can't believe you guys are smuggleing our bees up your way. Seriously, they are vicious and persistent.

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick 1456 View Post
    Wonder how they got there? More to this story IMHO.
    I didn't read or hear anything in news about it but we had our beekeeper meeting the other nite here in jackson co. al. had state inspector to talk he said they found some in north al. some one went to tx bought an old tractor to restore and got home found bees got the inspector test showed there were afb.

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    "some one went to tx bought an old tractor to restore and got home found bees got the inspector test showed there were afb."

    This is the second such post. Now, for the last time, we'uns in Texas don't want you interlopers hauling off our tame bees. Don't make us come get them back.

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    Quote Originally Posted by lazy shooter View Post
    "some one went to tx bought an old tractor to restore and got home found bees got the inspector test showed there were afb."

    This is the second such post. Now, for the last time, we'uns in Texas don't want you interlopers hauling off our tame bees. Don't make us come get them back.
    ROTF, lol, good one!

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    "If all you have is a hammer, the whole world is a nail." - A.H. Maslow

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    "some one went to tx bought an old tractor to restore and got home found bees got the inspector test showed there were afb."

    The problem I have with this is did the start the tractor.... did they load the tractor.....no bee stings while doing this??????
    Sometimes I think inspectors are government employees trying to impress someone with their importance!!!!
    One more thought " If you yankees think you don't have AHB genetics can't think of of a comment just shaking my head.' They've been selling bees and hauling bees out of Texas with those genetics for how long now???? Gracious sakes alive!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    AHBs are not African bees, they are a hybrid. They are not apis mellifera scutellata, they are something else.
    Good post sqkcrk.. you ate on target. This should have not been released as 17 percent is NOT considered anything to report by ahb standards. I have never been impressed by John Skinner at UT. Mike their state apiarist worked under Skinner at UT AND SHOULD HAVE NEVER RELEASED THIS. It only serves to scare the public...big stupid mistake! Now if it was 75 or 90 percent it would be differant

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    I made some calls and here is the scoop! Remember my opinion on john Skinner and the state apiarist! The test that was run was the fabis test using wing measurements. It is a fast field test..it gives only a PERCENTAGE OF PROBABILITY!!! SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN there is a 17 percent chance that the bees had africanized genes or a 83 percent chance they had none!!! How smart are these people. Its obvious they don't have a clue about what they are talking about! No genetic testing was done. Genetic test will say one of four things...afranized , European, European with some africanized traits or African with European traits. The big news release that may cause Some beekeeper to loose a yard or worse because of public panic was a huge blunder that should cause someone to loose their job! There was a 17 percent chance that the bee had some African genes...83 percent chance that it had NO AFRICANIZED genes! What is was .....Was a old mean bee that came over on the Mayflower!! What a Mess!

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    People using small cell better watch their butts. The FABIS test will cause all bees on small cell to test positive for Africanized genes. I guess if they actually did a genetic test, they would simply find the bee was Apis Mellifera. Bees are bees! I hate the AHB scare tactic propaganda. It is unique to U.S.A. In all reality, it is a war on our honeybees. People all over the rest of the world aren't afraid the African genetics will migrate to them. Never forget the Romans traded honeybees with Egypt and other parts of Africa forever! What is wrong with us? There is really no proof that AM Mellifera was not already in the Northern Hemisphere, only proof that AM Lingustica was brought over in 1857. I wish beekeepers could unite in defense of the honeybees.

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    "I wish beekeepers could unite in defense of the honeybees." I don't know any beekeepers on a personal basis, but I don't believe there is a beekeeper on this forum that won't unite with you to defend bees.

    The news media exploits sensationalism in all its reporting. We never have a cold front or wet front move through our area without horrendous warnings of hail and possible tornadoes. They do happen. I'm 73 years old, and I had my first hail damage last year. The news media has become dramatic about all their reporting. Don't wait for them to tell the truth about AHB.

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    Bees are bees. Some are mean, some are not. That is a fact. It is also a fact, that a certain demographic stands to profit from killing ALL bees.

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    Default Re: Africanized bees found in Tennessee

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul McCarty View Post
    Bees are bees. Some are mean, some are not. That is a fact. It is also a fact, that a certain demographic stands to profit from killing ALL bees.
    What demographic?

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