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  1. #1
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    Default Question about buying foundation

    What foundation would you recommend to buy and best place to get it from.

  2. #2
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    Default Re: Question about buying foundation

    That depends entirely on your philosophy of beekeeping.
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesphilosophy.htm

    Assuming you want my opinion, then it will be in line with my philosophy, which would be natural. My favorite foundation is no foundation.
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesfoundationless.htm

    But if I were getting foundation, cell size would paramount for me.
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesnaturalcell.htm

    But here is my advice on foundation:
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesoptions.htm#pf120
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesnewbees.htm#styleofframes
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

  3. #3
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    Default Re: Question about buying foundation

    We prefer Kelly over Dadant, although both are good. We found Kelly had a slightly smaller cell size, and liked the wires better.

    Crazy Roland

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    Default Re: Question about buying foundation

    I also like Kelly. Quality is number one.

    Foundation is heavy, so, shipping becomes a factor also.

    cchoganjr

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    Default Re: Question about buying foundation

    Rite-Cell from Mann Lake is heavy and stiff--doesn't tend to sag or warp. Plus, shipping is free.

  6. #6
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    Default Re: Question about buying foundation

    What do you guys think about small cell in the brood chamber and large cell in the supers?
    Disclaimer: I know enough to know I don't know anything yet.

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    Default Re: Question about buying foundation

    >What do you guys think about small cell in the brood chamber and large cell in the supers?

    If you use an excluder, maybe. But then I'd put drone foundation in the supers. Easier to extract and the queen won't mistake them for worker cells.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

  8. #8
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    Default Re: Question about buying foundation

    Which one would you recommend for the brood and super from Kelly.

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    Default Re: Question about buying foundation

    Without an excluder I'd either use all small cell or small cell in the brood nest and 7/11 in the supers. With an excluder (which I wouldn't do) I'd use drone foundation in the supers and small cell (4.9mm) in the brood nest.

    What sheets (as opposed to cell size) will depend on the size and type of frame, but assuming deeps (I would run mediums) and assuming a Wedge top and divided bottom:

    4.9mm:
    https://kelleybees.com/Products/Deta...3337&grouped=1

    Assuming shallow supers and no excluder 7/11:
    https://kelleybees.com/Products/Deta...3339&grouped=1

    I'm not finding wax drone, but I'm sure it's there somewhere. They have changed their foundation searches so you end up with choosing a precise frame type, which makes some sense but I would like to be able to look up "drone foundation" for instance, and the see what sizes it's available in...
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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