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  1. #81
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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    I know that there are thousands of swarms more than traps set and I am doing my best to change those statistics. The cutout calls will start flooding in any time now. The local bee club has just again imported a hundred or more packages and hived them in their tiny topbar hives or 8 frame doubles with no honey supers.....looking gleefully forward to next year or even later this season. Like Charlie I should become club president so that I too have the mailing list addresses. Smart guy Trapper Charlie.

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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    The Santa Clara Valley club and the Gilroy Club brought in an additional 160+ packages last week.

    And because I am one of the Club officers, I do have the addresses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    And because I am one of the Club officers, I do have the addresses
    We have about 60 newbees in our club getting packages which will be here next week. So with Fuzzy's list added with mine that should be over 200 VSH New World Carniolan swarms with marked queens.

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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    Caught another swarm by hand today.
    Our club is getting a couple hundred packages in a couple weeks.
    Dan

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    I'm going to start calling you Ollie Junior Dan! Where are you guys getting your packages?
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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    I am ecstatic, breathless, in euphoria, my ship came in, my stars have crossed. A contractor friend, who has had my bait hives at his residence for years, called me demanding bait hives at his new construction site because "it has so much bee activity". Google maps indicate that it is only .7 MILES AWAY FROM CHARLIES SITE AT HIS MOTHER INLAW'S HOUSE. Does life get any better than this? How many hives do you have there? Saratoga here I come.

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    I don't have to worry because I attended Jollie Ollie's school of swarm prevention and I'm pretty sure they're not going to swarm. Unless you want a load of rock salt in your "you know what" I wouldn't get to close! My Mother-In-Law is a good shot!
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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    Our Italian packages are coming from a private deal out of Willows.
    We are also getting some NWC out of Vacaville, don't think they sell to the general public either.
    Dan

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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    One swarm in a 10 frame bait hive yesterday.
    One swarm in a newly placed 5 frame bait hive today ( less than 3hrs )
    4 hand retrievals so far

    and lots of interest in another 10 frame bait hive set up today.

    Again, none of these from my hives, but I'm gonna have to get more supers soon. Saturday and Sunday should be killer swarm days.

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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    >One swarm in a newly placed 5 frame bait hive today ( less than 3hrs )

    That's about my record also. Placed it after lunch. Host called in an hour that it was awash with scouts. A while later he called screaming a swarm was coming down the street and turning into the driveway. In a cardboard nuc box on a table,I was nearby and returned after it was mostly in. Here are the pics.




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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    [QUOTE=odfrank;777114]>One swarm in a newly placed 5 frame bait hive today ( less than 3hrs )

    A while later he called screaming a swarm was coming down the street and turning into the driveway. In a cardboard nuc box on a table,I was nearby and returned after it was mostly in. Here are the pics.


    I want video of the swarm coming down the street and turning into driveway
    (is this another fish story?)

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    Sounds fishy to me!
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    For Charlie and Bevy who don't trust me and just called me a big liar here are some more statistics to also doubt while you squirm with jealousy in your pathetic little world:
    To date 2012 with swarm season just started:
    Six bait hives all caught on their stands at ground level
    Three swarms caught

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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    I am with you odfrank. I rarely put swarm traps higher than i can reach. Most are sitting on plastic barrels, mice can't climb the plastic. The only time I put them higher than I can reach is if i put them on a deer stand out in the woods. I use old worn out ten frame deeps.

    Three caught so far.

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    Last edited by Cleo C. Hogan Jr; 04-04-2012 at 03:21 PM.

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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    I agree with you both. After last years 2 near death experiences on a 10 foot stepladder with swarm traps so heavy I could hardly lift them off of the nail, I am an ON THE GROUND kind of guy. I have used ladder deer stands, but it is just so much safer on the ground. I know there is a body of evidence suggesting that success rates are higher when traps are approximately 15 feet (Bee Culture April 2012), but I have caught a lot of swarms at 4-6 feet.

    I have seen a lot of bee trees where the entrance is at ground level or less than a foot. Stay on the ground and stay safe.
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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    Quote Originally Posted by LetMBee View Post
    last years 2 near death experiences on a 10 foot stepladder.
    I had a host help me catch a swarm yesterday and the hardest part was convincing him to not risk life and limb up a rickety ladder for a few silly insects. We pole prune cut their branch and let them fall 15 feet onto a nuc box and they marched right in. No broken necks or life in a wheelchair.

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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    Im also in agreement about hanging the bait boxes lower. I keep them high enough so that if I stretch I can reach the entrance to stuff in the sponge when taking them down.

    Mine are literally hanging. The rope is thrown over a branch above the trap and I just hoist it up or gently lower it down. I try to rest it against another branch or the trunk so it doesnt move in the wind. I just need to stuff the entrance, untie the rope and lower it down. No worries about falling out of the tree (Ive got enough the way it is about tripping over rocks or tree roots at night).

    http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/traphive.jpg

    Ive also had some nightmare removals involving heavy traps that I had to get out of the tree. A friend of mine set up the trap hive from this next picture (I dont want to take the blame for this one).

    http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...fullofbees.jpg

    It was several weeks before we could get to it and the bees had filled the box. Instead of hanging the box, he set in the crotch of the tree. It was nice and stable but really hard to lift it out of there. The weight had jammed it in there even more. Added to that was only having one hand available while the other was hanging onto the tree to keep from falling. The bark of this tree made for slippery footing, making the removal that much more difficult. And it was night.

    On a side note, swarms have stopped (momentarily I hope) here. Weve been having some fairly good rains just before evening which might be affecting this. Rains are unusual this time of year. There should still be swarms flying here until at least the middle of May. Im still at 21 swarms, having filled 75% of the bait boxes I've set out.


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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    Does size matter?

    I caught, #10 maybe fist size, it will take 6 months to fill the five frame trap.

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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    Does size matter?

    I caught, #10 maybe fist size, it will take 6 months to fill the five frame trap.
    Your buddy in Saratoga throws some weak swarms apparently.
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    Default Re: Why is the odfrank challenge closed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keth Comollo View Post
    Your buddy in Saratoga throws some weak swarms apparently.
    No, I am sure that Charlie's swarms will be immense, when I catch them. This swarm was caught near two other beekeepers homes. In the past they have been good size. I am going to count it to keep up with Tomas and Bevy. I shouldn't have admitted that it was a wimp, I take it back.

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