I've spent enough time cruising this site about every angle related to foundationless frames, read many books, but I've not been able to read of the collective experience of those who have tried it. Collective meaning more than one or two people.
For this thread, I'm interested in seeking experience of beekeepers in using foundationless frames from the initial install of a package. Not a nuc, nor a split. No regression stories. No migration from large cell or move to small cell, or pros and cons. Absolutely opinion free. Just "I installed a package and began without foundation. Here's how i did it. Here's what what worked, what didn't (and why), and what I'd do differently."
Please detail the facts. From those who have installed a package and gone entirely foundationless from square one. What happened? How did you go about it? Please be specific. Did you use a ladder frame? How did you introduce the queen? If things didn't go well, did you correct and continue or abandon? what were your observations? We're you using an 8 or 10 frame hive? Deeps or all mediums?
I'm a second year beekeeper and my interest in this isn't because I think it's "the right thing to do," rather a technique some are employing and I suspect that there is a lot of experience on this forum that I can't find in one place, or that doesn't spin into an almost political discussion. it's also hard for me to gain any understanding of this issue without putting boundaries around the experience, which is why I've asked for responses only related to package installs. And more specifically, Langstroth hives.