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Colony update here in Pa

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#1 ·
This has been one of the strangest Winters in quite awhile.
We've had temps in the low 50's numerous times so far and the bees have been bringing in a pale yellow pollen.

Was checking out the three colonies my friend has and saw that one of the "stronger" colonies has finally died.
There were many dead bees on the comb and looks like they either starved or froze to death in place.
Recently he and I were doing an inspection on a warm day and we saw a few hundred bees and the queen in that hive along with plenty of honey stores left. Didn't look good at that point.

What was the "weakest" colony going into Winter is now booming! Still trying to figure that one out.
It has two deeps and a medium with lots of honey and they had eaten most of the sugar we placed on the inner cover.
Btw, that sugar did a great job absorbing moisture.

Earlier this Winter we removed a medium super from it that didn't have much honey stores.
But after seeing how full the hive is, I pulled a medium super full of honey off the dead hive and placed it on the "weak" hive.
Now they'll have a little more elbow room and more stores to chew on.

The third colony is still alive but the population is down. Not sure if that one will make it till Spring.
He is planning to split the "weak" hive at least once and maybe twice if things continue looking good.

Allen
 
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#55 ·
Hello everyone in PA. It's nice to hear fellow PA beekeepers talk about their latest happenings. Hey Virginiawolf, your a "neighbor" - I'm from Brookville area.

I'm a "newer" beekeeper - the past 3 years, but did have several years of beekeeping as a teen.

I'm hoping to get several swarm traps up soon and kind of thinking swarming will probably be starting around mid - April due to the warm winter. What do you all think of when swarm season will actually start this year?
 
#57 ·
Beeclub? Is this something local? I don't think there is a "local" beeclub over here - at least not that I know of. I think regularly swarm season starts around here in May, and just from looking over swarm dates this year on this site - it seems to be about 2 weeks ahead of schedule. I don't really deal with supers - I just put on full hive bodies.
My one hive seems to be up in the 2nd or 3rd hive body instead of the bottom one - they aren't using the lower entrance. I'm waiting for a nice warm day to switch the boxes around so they are in the lower one.
I haven't put any traps out yet, but figured I should get some one in the next week or so.
 
#58 · (Edited)
Helped my friend split one of his hives today.
Turns out we are going to split the second one tomorrow or Tuesday.
And....
He is giving that split to us. :banana:

We saw some interesting things while going through both of them.





He added some semi-foundationless frames in both hives last Tuesday by knocking out all but a small strip of foundation along the underside of the top bar.

Here is a first look at their progress in a short period of time.
Take notice of the cell size on the foundationless vs. the foundation.
Check out the festooning.














We will have 5 colonies of bees. 3 Nucs, a package and a split.
Should be interesting to see how they all build up for Winter.
The plan is that if the split makes it through Winter, I will give a split back to him next Spring.
 
#60 ·
I've had 2 of my 3 hives swarm already.:eek: One I was able to catch, one is just "gone". They were all 1 deep through winter, and the one hive was my strongest and about 2 weeks ago they had their second deep put on when they had been using most of the empties. Now there's no brood that's not capped and a small amt. of honey in all of the cells throughout the hive. Very little capped, but nectar is throughout. :scratch: They still had frames to draw on so why????? I have no idea. How fast do you all put new boxes on? I thought doubling their space would give me about 1 brood cycle at least, but they swarmed sooner than that. They were super calm though. Well here's for learning. This at least is one way to combat mites. Interrupt the brood cycle. I just wish I would have seen this coming.
 
#61 ·
delber, it seems that once bees make up their mind to swarm - sometimes you can't stop them. If they were feeling cramped due to only one hive body, they might have already decided "We are running out of room." and even though you "built on", their minds were already made up.

I haven't heard of any swarms in our area yet.

I did put out two swarm traps near my two hives if they decide to swarm. And I'm hoping to get several more swarm traps placed around where I know feral colonies are.
 
#63 ·
What's new across the state? Looks of uncapped nectar in my hives. Will be checking on my hives on Saturday again.

Had to take a small split off of one, due to swarm cells being present a couple weeks ago.

Anyone catching any swarms in PA lately? I have 6 traps up, nothing yet ...
 
#65 ·
I caught a swarm on Tuesday May 1 in Worthville, PA - a very small town between Brookville and Punxsutawney. It was a nice size clustered on several pine tree branches about 2' high. I was just able to slide the hive under it. When I jolted the branch, apparently the multiple branches made the bees lose cluster as instead of the whole swarm dropping into the hive, some did but most of the bees took flight. Luckily the queen was in the hive, as once I put on the lid, the cloud of bees slowly got smaller and smaller as they went into the hive.

I brought them home after dark and the following morning put on a 2nd hive body. They have accepted their hive and going about their business.
 
#66 ·
Our split and package bees are drawing comb and some eggs were finally found.
I'm still waiting to hear about our three Nucs from Yule Apiary.
Things must be moving slow for them.

My friends TBH had some issues yesterday.
He discovered lots of newly drawn comb which started off straight and then ran into the adjoining top bars.
He got them back on track and will keep a daily eye on them for now.
 
#67 ·
Also caught a swarm Tuesday of a decent size. They were in a olive bush about ten feet up. Learned some valuable lessons. One don't under estimate the weight. The cluster doesn't like to drop from that height only ONE sting . Make sure you get the queen. After they regrouped on the branch on the ground I carried it over to my nuc box and tried the white sheet trick. Well, after dumping them on the sheet they simply flew away and regrouped on the front of my hive. Meanwhile, a cluster started forming on the outside of thebucket I tried to place them in earlier. Nuc box moved some sugar water spray and a quick jolt sent most of them into the box. Got the queen this time as the remaining bees entered the box. Moved the nuc next to the spot I want to put another hive after dark (still need to get another one). Its now Friday lots of activity, fanning, foraging, guarding the entrance, even saw some pollen comiing in. Hoping to move them into a full hive soon so I can get that nuc back up to try and catch one without having to climb ladders and cut branches sure don't like heights.
 
#68 · (Edited)
Well i've never seen a swarm till MAY 1 my wife hived the first swarm she quess's it was around 12 lb it was huge for sure and the bee's are brite orange and big very nice looking bee's .
So she boxed the swarm and set up a hive in my apiary and dump them in and they are still hived the next day we are up at my apiary the next day checking out my new hive when in a little thawhorn tree was a nother swarm but only a third of the size of the first one but still a nice swarm. So i got two swarms in two days just 15 to 20 feet from my hives and i know for sure the monster swarm was not my bee's there biger and much more orange then mine . Swarm 2 is hived and looking good i quess i'll now if we got the queens or not in 12 more days i'll look for eggs then.
Now the secone swarm kindda looked like my bee's but i see no sign of swarming from my 3 originl hives.
I have queens come this week (i hope so) i don't want to dig into the hive till i do my splits and i know they had room a week ago and one had no brood so i gave them a frame of open brood from a strong hive.
This is my first year of bee's making it througt winter and in to the spring flow and so far it's been crazy the swarms blow my mind.
I all so have Nucs from Yule Apiary orded and have not heard for him yet.
And qweens from White oak and no word for them yet i'm quessing soon.
Will bee's swarm to other apiarys? What a great MAY so far what fun.
 
#69 ·
The neighbor called and left a message on my answering machine today while I was at work. He had a swarm in his back yard (Summerville, PA 15864) and thought I had bees. Told me I wanted them to call him and come get them. The next message was him again that he called the county extention office and they told him a swarm only sticks around for a couple of hours, so he called another beekeeper and so they were collected.

I don't think the swarm was mine. I only have 1 hive that it could have come from - and it seemed to be as busy as usual this evening. I know 2 years ago, a feral swarm flew from the woods across our property and was heading in the direction of this neighbor, so I'm fairly certain this was a feral swarm.

I did have a swarm trap out, but they must not have been interested in it.
 
#70 ·
How much longer do we expect the flow to be on this spring in SE PA?

I took some off two hives this past weekend, extracted and put the wet supers back on.

Anyone one else take any yet?

I did catch a dinky swarm mothers day weekend in my yard.
 
#71 ·
I got 3 galons off of one hive on Memorial day (along with almost getting heat stroke. I'm thankful for a GREAT wife!!!) As far as a flow I haven't seen the sumac blooming yet and I know that's one of the later trees to bloom in the "spring flow" at least according to last year.
 
#74 ·
I only was able to harvest from one hive this year. The second swarmed on me and the third had queen issues. My one hive I harvested about 70# or so of honey before they swarmed on me mid / late June and had queen failure and is now dead. Currently I have 6 going into winter that seem to be set for a good spring hopefully.
 
#76 ·
It's been a busy year. Had both hives make it through the winter and did a split on one which got me up to 3 hives. I advertised I would remove swarms and captured at least 11 swarms but I had several abscond. I am up to 12 hives right now and I would say half of them have enough stores. Once we get some decent weather (and I have the time. I think I can steal some honey from the heavy hives to give to the lighter ones. That plus feeding and we will see how they survive this winter.

I was going to get some honey off at least 3 of my heaviest hives, but don't have an extractor nor did I want to spend $300.00 to buy one. I have a local beekeeper who is thinking of getting out of beekeeping, and so will either buy his extractor or next year I will at least borrow it. Some of the swarms I captured just didn't seem to do much while others really went to work.

And I guess if I don't "rob from the rich and give to the poor" or feed, it will be survival of the fittest.
 
#77 ·
I'll give a little more information on how my year went. I went into last winter with four hives, came out with two which made an average of 52lbs. of honey each for the spring harvest. I collected some swarms, bought four nucs, two of which came with more mites than bees, did some splits and had 14 hives by mid summer. I'm back down to nine and one nuc heading into winter. I only had two hives make honey this fall, I haven't extracted it yet but I'm guessing about 40 lbs. each. I was really disappointed with how this fall turned out but I've talk to some other beekeepers and it seems like it just wasn't a good fall.
 
#78 ·
I started two hives this year, one Italian from a package and another from a nuc (Carniolan). I split them into two more hives, which I have in nucs for the winter. The original nuc didn't produce any excess honey and superceded the queen and the Italian package produced seven medium frames of excess honey. I got no excess from the fall flow, even though there was a lot of goldenrod in the area. I smelled the goldenrod nectar in the hives, so I believe they were using it to backfilling the hive bodies. I can't complain as they were both new hives and I didn't expect any honey from them the first year.
 
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