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    Default Changing sugar to honey in wine recipe

    I found a real simple dandelion wine recipe that calls for 6 cups of sugar. I would rather use honey instead, how much honey should I use? Will it work? Thanks

    Dandelion Wine
    Dandelion wine does not require any special equipment to make. Just dandelions, some sugar and yeast, oranges and lemons, and pots to boil water in. This recipe uses cloves, which I think give it a nice touch. If you have dandelions around, give it a try!

    1 package dried yeast
    1/4 cup warm water
    2 quarts dandelion blossoms
    4 quarts water
    1 cup orange juice
    3 tablespoons fresh lemon juice
    3 tablespoons fresh lime juice
    8 whole cloves
    1/2 teaspoon powdered ginger
    3 tablespoons coarsely chopped orange peel
    1 tablespoon coarsely chopped lemon peel
    6 cups sugar
    Dissolve the yeast in the warm water. Set aside. Wash the dandelion blossoms well. Put them in the water with the orange, lemon and lime juices. Add the cloves, ginger, orange and lemon peel, and sugar. Bring to a boil and continue to boil for an hour. Strain through filter paper (coffee filters work great). Cool. While still warm (but not hot), stir in the yeast. Let stand overnight and pour into bottles. Allow uncorked bottles to set in a darkened place for three weeks. Then cork and store bottles in a cool place. Makes about 4 quarts

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    Default Re: Changing sugar to honey in wine recipe

    All the mead recipes I've found call for 3# of honey for a gallon of must. Plus or minus depending on how dry you want it.

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    Default Re: Changing sugar to honey in wine recipe

    I have never looked into conversion factors. I'd suggest using a HYDROMETER and add honey to the desired potential alcohol level.
    If you do not understand this, slow down until you do, you will be happier with your end result.

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    Default Re: Changing sugar to honey in wine recipe

    Sugar is listed in most brewing extract tables as yielding 45 points per pound per gallon (ppppg); meaning 1 pound of sugar disolved in 1 gallon of water yields a SG of 1.045. Honey is listed as 35 ppppg. So if a recipe calls for sugar and you want to use honey instead, multiply the weight of sugar by 1.29 (45/35) and you will get the weight of honey that you need.

    In your case since the recipe calls for 6 cups of sugar, you will have to weight 6 cups of sugar and go from there. You cant do the calculation by volume (well actually you can, but it's too much work for me right now).
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    Default Re: Changing sugar to honey in wine recipe

    It would be a straight up waste of good honey to put it in Dandelion Wine. However yes it will work. Weigh out your sugar and use the same weight of honey + 18% more honey to compensate for the water in it. Last time I had some Dandelion wine it tasted too acidic. I dumped that crap out!

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    Default Re: Changing sugar to honey in wine recipe

    this might help

    SUGAR NOTES

    2 oz. (4 TBSP) sugar raises 1 gallon's s.g. by .005
    1 cup sugar raises 1 gallon's s.g. by .020
    5 cups raises 5 gallons' s.g. by .020
    4# sugar = 9.44 cups
    1# sugar = 2.36 cups
    5# sugar = 11.8 cups
    10# sugar = 23.6 cups

    If wine is at 1.000 s.g., 8 TBSP (half cup) sugar per gallon should taste sweet (to me)

    1# sugar in 5 gallons liquid will raise Potential Alcohol 1%

    Sweetness:
    1# sugar = 3 cups corn sugar
    4# sugar = 5# honey
    3# sugar = 5# raisins
    1# sugar = 20 oz. grape concentrate

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    Default Re: Changing sugar to honey in wine recipe

    Quote Originally Posted by the kid View Post
    4# sugar = 9.44 cups
    1# sugar = 2.36 cups
    5# sugar = 11.8 cups
    10# sugar = 23.6 cups
    No trying to be argumentive, but how does one measure 9.44, 2.36, 11.8, or 23.6 cups? Seems like weight is the best way to go.
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    Default Re: Changing sugar to honey in wine recipe

    Quote Originally Posted by Nabber86 View Post
    No trying to be argumentive, but how does one measure 9.44, 2.36, 11.8, or 23.6 cups? Seems like weight is the best way to go.
    9.44,,,, I would say 9 and a half would bee real close because .5 is half and its only 6 one hundreds of a cup off ,,,, 2.36 ,,,, .33 is 1/3 because .36 is real real close to a third ,, it would be 3 one hundreds of a cup off of a 1/3 ,, . 8 I would say is real close to 3/4 because .75 is 3/4 so that makes it 5 one hundreds off ,,,,, .6 is real close to 1/2 because .5 is half ,,, remember your making mead , and that little + or - is not going to be enough to change the taste a lot , but if thats not close enough ,, then you better get a real good scale that goes to .000 so you will be less then a thousandth of a pound off ,,and go by it ...

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    Default Re: Changing sugar to honey in wine recipe

    Really, it will be much easier (and remember, this is supposed to be fun!) to target an alcohol content you want and the residual sweetness you want. Then it's simple math to reckon how much honey in how much water to get you there... see the intro to meadmaking for how. Or weigh a cup of sugar and extrapolate.
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    Default Re: Changing sugar to honey in wine recipe

    Quote Originally Posted by the kid View Post
    9.44,,,, I would say 9 and a half would bee real close because .5 is half and its only 6 one hundreds of a cup off ...
    ,,,then...I.,,,guess you should ,,,,have rounded your,,,,numbers,,,,,to 1/10 of a cup,,,in the first place,,,

    Or buy a gram scale and you can measure down to less than 1/400 of a pound.
    Last edited by Nabber86; 03-09-2012 at 12:26 PM.
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    Default Re: Changing sugar to honey in wine recipe

    Quote Originally Posted by Nabber86 View Post
    ,,,then...I.,,,guess you should ,,,,have rounded your,,,,numbers,,,,,to 1/10 of a cup,,,in the first place,,,

    Or buy a gram scale and you can measure down to less than 1/400 of a pound.
    It was something that was posted on a wine site that I go on ,, I just copy and paste ,, .. any scale has to be used as a general thing ,,

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