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  1. #1
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    Default Small Cell Nuc Question

    This coming season I'm considering running some small cell mating nucs, my question is will small cell assist with varroa control in a mating nuc?

    The nucs are 3 standard deep lang frames, a cell is put in and the queen is allowed to lay for 2 - 3 weeks before being sold and a new cell put in.

    A lot of these nucs don't raise any drones so after reading M Bushes sacrificial drone theory, and that would require drone brood in the hive for varroa control to work. So I'd like to hear from anyone with experience with small cell nucs, or anyone with any thoughts or information on this.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Small Cell Nuc Question

    I will follow this one. I have been regressing my bees onto 4.9 plastic frames. They build a lot of drone comb at the bottom of frames as bridgecomb or make a mess on the plastic I have to scrape off. I think they will build a certain amount of drone comb come H or high water. If you want sacrificial drone cells throw in a foundationless frame and they will build it solid drone cells if they feel the need. I wish I had a better answer for you.

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    Default Re: Small Cell Nuc Question

    I am also very interested in how this works out. I am also using three frame deep mating nucs. I have built 10 3x3 queen castles and am going to put them to use this spring.

    Alistair, do you mean your next season starting in October or thereabouts?
    Solomon Parker, Parker Farms, ParkerFarms.biz
    11 Years Treatment-Free, ~25 Colony Baseline

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    Default Re: Small Cell Nuc Question

    Yes I'll do them Octoberish, am thinking of doing 10 boxes x's 3 frame nucs. (30 nucs). I won't have enough sc bees till after the winter, but I'm now up to my 5 sc hive pre winter target, they just need to build up a bit & store enough winter feed over the next 2 or 3 months.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Small Cell Nuc Question

    As often as you change queens in a mating nuc, I wouldn't think there would be a mite overload problem.
    Dan

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    Default Re: Small Cell Nuc Question

    That's a good point Dan. I hope Alistair gets to do several rounds of queens to see how these nucs pan out. I will most likely due to time and hive numbers constraints be unable to do more than a single round. I'm going to be splitting up most of my hives to supply these mating nucs. The product will hopefully be a couple dozen nucs. I want to keep the best ones, sell the moderate ones, and merge the duds and dinks with the best ones to make hives for over-summering and over-wintering. A lot depends on the weather which grows ever more volatile year by year.
    Solomon Parker, Parker Farms, ParkerFarms.biz
    11 Years Treatment-Free, ~25 Colony Baseline

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