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  1. #121
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    Default Re: Table saw recommendations

    Buzz, I woudl not recommend that and i am not sure it woudl work either. One the blade is supported by a fairly large carriage in a table saw. If you loosen that carriage while the saw is running. and add stress to it by having it cut. I am not certain what sort of problems it might cause. Along with that you woudl have to see how a blade is moving when it tilts to really get it. but it is not a nice long curving motion. Finally your arm would get worn out after just a few boxes. progress would be painfully slow. You would want the blade tilted a few degrees something like 14 to 15 degrees even with a sled.
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    buzz abbott...No that won't work. I don't know if I can explain it very well but, that would only allow the blade to move in an arc. Even if you had your wood piece on an incline, the arc would not cut the full handle. You could do it by tilting the blade and raising the height of the blade, but, that would be more time consuming and difficult.

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  3. #123
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    That may get the job done, but would be a little slow, and if you had a lot of boxes to do, you may run out of gas before you were done. It would be a lot of arm work.
    Last edited by ralittlefield; 01-03-2013 at 12:58 PM.

  4. #124
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    Default Re: Table saw recommendations

    anyone familiar with craftsman model 113.12181?
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  5. #125
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    Default Re: Table saw recommendations

    Mr. Hogan,

    Have you found or did you make zero clearance inserts for your craftsman table saws (113.2989360)? If so, where or how did you come by them? Thank you for your time.

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    I had them made. I took a zero insert that came with the saw and had a local fix-it shop, (Tom's repair), cut the insert out to the size I needed with a plasma cutter. I started to make one with an angle grinder, but, it was very time consuming. I gave up and had it cut with a plasma cutter.

    cchoganjr

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    Regards, Barry

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    Thanks, Barry. That is good to know. I have two saws that didn't have the insert when I bought them, but since I use them for dado blades, I don't need the regular insert unless I go back to using them for normal saw cuts.

    Barry.. If I read the info correctly, their stock inserts fit Craftsman Saws with belt drive. the 113.298360 and 113.298051 are direct drive. All of mine are direct drive, but on some models, the saw tables have the same part number for direct drive and belt driven models. If so, The inserts should still work.

    Some time ago, I made a zero clearance for a Delta Miter Saw using Masonite Board, and it works, doesn't look the greatest, didn't do the best job on the cutout, but it works. I noticed one reason given for using plastic for inserts, rather than wood, is to prevent swelling and contraction due to weather changes. I don't think this would matter with Masonite unless it was outside, in which case the Masonite would likely fall apart anyway.

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    Last edited by Cleo C. Hogan Jr; 02-04-2013 at 04:54 PM.

  9. #129
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    Default Re: Table saw recommendations

    Apologies for raising a ghost thread from 2012 / 2013, but have any of you looked at SAWSTOP?

    The mechanism has an electric current running through the blade that can sense your skin beginning to cut and releases a spring-loaded aluminum brake onto the saw blade. It stops so fast that you sometimes don't even get a little bit of blood, just a skin-deep slice! Safest table saw on the market.

    I put that purchase into the business plan. I'll be getting their high-end cabinetmaker model for my shop. They also have a contractor model (mid-range price) and a homeowner model (low-end price).

    I have been very impressed with saw blades by Freud. Their new dado sure cuts a clean FBJ.

  10. #130
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    Default Re: Table saw recommendations

    I was a contractor or 30 years (the recession fixed that) I have a full blown wood shop with a Delta Unisaw. It has since been pushed to the side (major metal shaping tools are in place now).

    I am now making all my boxes and hive components with my older Bosch table saws. These are large portable table saws that I used on job sites. Kind of big buy still portable. Adjustable table will cut up to 24". Sturdy and will allow a dado blade.

    Back extracting port fits onto my 2" dust collector. Nice cut and true measurements.

    I would stay away from the cheaper saws if your looking for something that lasts. Mine are 15 years old now. Beat up and cuy as strong as the day I bought them.

    Here is the newer version

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/T...id=GTS1041A-09
    Last edited by Barry; 11-25-2015 at 07:41 PM. Reason: language

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    So I use the rigid tablesaw. But, after I cut the thumb to the bone earlier this summer ( filleted it ) I am going to get the http://www.sawstop.com/ as soon as I build out my work shop. It was way too close and the thumb survived but, the deductibles on the fix cost more then the new saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastSideBuzz View Post
    So I use the rigid tablesaw. But, after I cut the thumb to the bone earlier this summer ( filleted it ) I am going to get the http://www.sawstop.com/ as soon as I build out my work shop. It was way too close and the thumb survived but, the deductibles on the fix cost more then the new saw.
    I'm using an older Delta direct drive "contractors saw" , 10" , cast iron table , and a fence from who-knows-what saw . I use push sticks when there's any chance of getting a finger in the blade ... been there and lost a little flesh and it made me much more careful . The only fixture I use other than the fence is a sled to cut pieces to length , everything else is cut with the fence .
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  13. #133
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    Default Re: Table saw recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by EastSideBuzz View Post
    So I use the rigid tablesaw. But, after I cut the thumb to the bone earlier this summer ( filleted it ) I am going to get the http://www.sawstop.com/ as soon as I build out my work shop. It was way too close and the thumb survived but, the deductibles on the fix cost more then the new saw.
    I have the contractor version of sawstop. With a nice blade, It is more than adequate for my beekeeping related woodwork.
    It is more expensive but frankly I cannot afford to lose one of my appendages.

    I have the longer rip fence mobile stand version, but I am in the process of replacing it with a custom built table with heavy duty castors

  14. #134
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    Default Re: Table saw recommendations

    I brought the profesional grade sawstop into the shop about a year ago.

    It's beautifully built saw, easily comparable or better to all the others in the price bracket.
    Depending how you break out all the extras and such, your really only paying 3-400 more for the safety brake....to me that's a no brainer on a purchase of this size for that degree of insurance.
    It's probably harder to swallow when looking at a small job site type saw. I suspect it must near double the cost. But it's still just a few hundred bucks to insure your fingers.

    I've worked full time for years in woodshops, and never been bitten by a table saw. But I also know plenty of craftsman I respect, with experience equal and exceeding my own who have. It happens. It happens even when your careful and know your buisness.
    I hear lots of folks saying how we did just fine without them for years and it is true. You make do with what you have. But I wouldn't buy a car without airbags now that we have them..

    I'd like to see a 12" jointer with similar technology.

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