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    Question How do you treatment free beekeepers make it without Fumidil-B?

    Hi, I was wondering how you treatment free beekeepers make it without Fumidil-B? I live in a place that has long, cold winters and can have cold, damp springs and falls, which from what I've read encourages nosema.

    Nathan
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    Default Re: How do you treatment free beekeepers make it without Fumidil-B?

    I noticed which hives seemed to have poop around and on them last winter and didn't increase from those hives.
    Solomon Parker, Parker Farms, ParkerFarms.biz
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    Default Re: How do you treatment free beekeepers make it without Fumidil-B?

    The most prevalent nosema is N. ceranae according to stats. Fecal marking of hive fronts is the typical tattle tale of N. Apis. but usually not seen with ceranae. I would be interested to hear how most people discover it is affecting them.

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    Default Re: How do you treatment free beekeepers make it without Fumidil-B?

    How do you treatment free beekeepers make it without Fumidil-B?

    That is the 64,000 dollar question, or at least what the answer will cost.

    Nosema ceranae seems to kill every time, Nosema apis, very little. Don't breed from dead hives.

    Crazy Roland

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    Default Re: How do you treatment free beekeepers make it without Fumidil-B?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland View Post
    Don't breed from dead hives.
    That's basically it.
    Solomon Parker, Parker Farms, ParkerFarms.biz
    11 Years Treatment-Free, ~25 Colony Baseline

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    Default Re: How do you treatment free beekeepers make it without Fumidil-B?

    Good genetics. Buckfast bees were overwintered in nucs in a cold wet environment. Survivors were bred. Losers were culled.
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    Thumbs Up Re: How do you treatment free beekeepers make it without Fumidil-B?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland View Post
    How do you treatment free beekeepers make it without Fumidil-B?

    That is the 64,000 dollar question, or at least what the answer will cost.

    Nosema ceranae seems to kill every time, Nosema apis, very little. Don't breed from dead hives.

    Crazy Roland
    I agree 100%
    Poppy's Bees, Queens, and Honey
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    Default Re: How do you treatment free beekeepers make it without Fumidil-B?

    I'm in a much warmer climate, but from what I've heard N. ceranae doesn't need the damp weather.
    Last 2 winters we've only lost one hive. Don't have a microscope to check nosema levels Though. Took 7 into winter last year.
    Dan

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    Default Re: How do you treatment free beekeepers make it without Fumidil-B?

    In 37 years of beekeeping, I've never used fumidil. Living without it has never been an issue. Neither has Nosema. Sometimes after confinement there is some dysentery, but that' s normal.

    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesnosema.htm
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beespests.htm#nosema
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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