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    Default more than three fourths of the honey sold contains no pollen

    To conceal its origin?
    Or as suggested by one packer, because that's what the consumer wants?
    http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/1...ampaign=111107
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    Default Re: more than three fourths of the honey sold contains no pollen

    "It's no secret to anyone in the business that the only reason all the pollen is filtered out is to hide where it initially came from and the fact is that in almost all cases, that is China,"
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    'The Sioux Honey Association, who says it's America's largest supplier, declined repeated requests for comments on ultra-filtration, what Sue Bee does with its foreign honey and whether it's ultra-filtered when they buy it. The co-op markets retail under Sue Bee, Clover Maid, Aunt Sue, Natural Pure and many store brands.'
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    Default Re: more than three fourths of the honey sold contains no pollen

    I think the authors of this article are confusing ultra filtered Chinese honey with how North American packers normally filter liquid honey, thru a filter
    press,which just happens to remove all the pollen.The reason is to give the product a longer shelf life by not granulating .It just happens that both products do not contain pollen, the Chinese product contains considerably less honey attributes.Of course this similarity aids those who are packing both products

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    Default Re: more than three fourths of the honey sold contains no pollen

    If, as stated in the article, the only way to determine the origin of honey is via pollen, then regardless of how it is removed there is no longer any way to determine its source. That surely opens the door for a load of opportunistic profiteering.
    The other thing that this begs to question is, if we remove all of the pollen, have we not produced simply a sterile, albeit natrually created sweetener? And if that's the case, why should honey command a premium over granulated sugar?
    I suspect that if the consuming public had any idea.....the market for grocery store honey would disappear.
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    Default Re: more than three fourths of the honey sold contains no pollen

    Pollen grains are pretty large when compared to cellular debris. There's probably enough nucleic acids left to make a determination as to the origin.

    Frankly, it makes it much easier if all of the pollen, with its load of polymerase inhibiting polyphenols, is already removed from the sample.

    They can filter, but they can't hide.

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    Default Re: more than three fourths of the honey sold contains no pollen

    Quote Originally Posted by WLC View Post
    Pollen grains are pretty large when compared to cellular debris. There's probably enough nucleic acids left to make a determination as to the origin.
    Are you suggesting that you believe that honey packers routinely conduct dna tests on cellular debris to determine their honeys’ origin?
    Or, are you saying that a persistent investigator with access to the technology and unlimited resources could determine the origin without any remaining pollen?
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    Default Re: more than three fourths of the honey sold contains no pollen

    "The reason is to give the product a longer shelf life by not granulating "

    Does granulation affect shelf life?? I belived it only changed consistency?

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