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  1. #1
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    Default Advice Needed

    I have a hive that I cutout August 23rd out of a crate. Left the hive there for a few days to catch stragglers and them moved across town.

    Basically 2 weeks ago I was able to check on them and noticed they had produced a queen cell so was thinking either the original queen was old or got injured during the trapout or they had a new queen that likewise had happened. 7 days ago I was able to go back and put in some frames with foundation and checked the comb I had rubberbanded in. Checked last weekend, did not see the queen so thought she was a runner but noticed the queen cell had been uncapped, did not need smoke since they are pretty gentle. Looked at existing comb and noticed no eggs.

    First thought is that she had not been bred then am thinking she might not have made it through the mating flight. The other bees are bringing in pollen and starting to work on the new frames but still no brood or eggs that I can tell.

    So my question is do I give them another week then re-check since she could be laying but very spotty and the bees are covering up the eggs or go ahead and requeen now.

    The only attachment to this hive is that it is my first cutout so would like to get them through, have been feeding syrup and during the hot temps they were sucking it down, cooled off and not so much but it has warmed back up and they are on it.
    It's Washington County, Fl not Wahington....my bad

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    Default Re: Advice Needed

    I would give them a few more weeks, but keep checking every 7 days or so.
    I thought my hive was queen less,, ordered a new queen.
    Queen arrived and danged if I didn't find larva in the bee hive. So give em a week or so.

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    Default Re: Advice Needed

    Agree with Ben. I would check back in a week and if you don't see the queen, eggs, or larvae get a new one. By the timeline you laid out you could see eggs or larvae up to seven days old then. You may need to give them another week to be sure unless you are good at picking up eggs.

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    Default Re: Advice Needed

    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesmath.htm

    It takes time to raise a queen and just as much time to get her mated and laying.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Advice Needed

    I worry about my cutouts being queenright too. More often than not you will find her laying soon enough. If they raised their own queen it could take over a month before she has hatched, mated, returned, and starts laying well.
    "Tradition becomes our security, and when the mind is secure it is in decay".....Krishnamurti

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    Default Re: Advice Needed

    I'd give them at least 10 days. It can take a month for them to raise up a new queen.
    Dan

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    Default Re: Advice Needed - Update

    Since I had to go and feed syrup today to the hive I decided to look again. This time I noticed eggs and uncapped larvae so this is a good sign. Still did not see the queen, I think she is Carl Lewis of the bee world.

    My next problem is I had placed several frames of wax covered Plasticell in there, no drawn foundation just straight brand new frames/foundation. Last check I thought they were taking to them but they are not. They have actually started to attach their free form rubber banded combs to them. I worked all of that loose but they will just re-attach eventaully.

    So to help with my problem do I.....

    Re-wax the frames to give it and them a boost.

    Let them do their own thing and wait till Spring and add a deep body on top for them to work up and on with drawn foundation. Probelm with that is I don't want a complete mess of the box they are in right now.

    Find somebody willing to exchange drawn frames for new ones.

    Can't replace with any other drawn frames since that would be robbing from Peter to pay Paul at this time of year. Also the bees are expanding on their free form comb and all of their stores are in them as well as eggs/larvae.

    My answer is to find somebody willing to exchange but that can be tough since drawn foundation is invaluable at times.

    Anyway...thanks for all of the previous advice. I have still alot to learn and to me if you don't learn something new everyday life can be boring.
    It's Washington County, Fl not Wahington....my bad

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