Comb storage and moths/beetles. And, AFB gas chambers and Gamma locaitons

[Skinner Apiaries]

Ok two in one, title says it all. Where are some good quick places to get afb combs nuked. First argument to 'burn' or whine about afb, I ask the mods delete it. Yes the NC state beek inspectors have a chamber, and it takes several weeks per load, I'm getting nowhere. So I'm abandoning that. At this rate I will bleach everything, and hope for the best. I will drive to jersey, florida where have you to get this gear nuked, there's plenty of it.

Ok second, comb storage, PM me those genocide recipes you big boys are using. I dont mind if there's some selfish advertisement of BT, but BT is pointless, and I paramoth is even more pointless than BT.

Mods, this thread is in Commercial, because this is who I need advice from.
Thanks guys, throw that experience at me

[Tom G. Laury]

With an airtight room Phostoxin will kill all stages of moth including eggs. If you can't obtain that, burning sulphur will kill larva and adults. Methyl Bromide ( BromoGas ) is also registered for moth but I have never used it. Cyanide is effective if available.

[fish_stix]

Don't look to FL! We burn AFB hives.

[Skinner Apiaries]

Don't look to FL! We burn AFB hives.

lol maybe so, but I know of alot of AFB in florida, and alot of nothing getting burned. Mines under control here, enough quarantine, shaking, tylan, and gasing can solve anything

[wglord]

Skinner;

I am curious too. I have some nice plastic division board feeders that were exposed that I want to sterilize. Be super careful with Phostoxin and cyanide - they can take YOU out too pretty quickly and you will need a commercial presticide license to buy anything like them. How about heat? Does anyone know if elevated heat can kill spores?

[rainesridgefarm]

What about gasing with formic acid? I think it will kill all but afb. I to would like to see a commercial application for honey supers so I can get rid of beetles if we have them in the honey supers before extacting. Does gamma kill them also?

[rainesridgefarm]

http://www.isomedix.com/Gamma/Locations.html

here are the locations for gamma.

[fish_stix]

I'm real curious about the AFB you know about in FL. Haven't seen a case of it in about 10-12 years and don't want to. State requirements are to burn them immediately, if not sooner, and I have no problem with that. Mine would get burned that very night they were discovered. Don't hear much about AFB on the forums either and I'm hoping the kill and burn routine has brought it to the rare disease point.

[Roland]

I believe AFB spores can tolerate 180 deg F for a 15-30 minutes which is more than the wax can.

Crazy Roland

[Skinner Apiaries]

Great link. Exactly what I needed.

Well fish, I'd tell you that Florida is a tough place to avoid AFB, but I suspect those holding yards in California are worse. Ive burned a couple, but I prefer to isolate them in one yard, bleach the empty pallet spot, and make the decision at isolation to shake or treat. They all get AB in syrup at some point or another.

Roland, you're on the money.

Anybody recall that ABJ article about cleaning comb? Specifically what month and page?

[Skinner Apiaries]

I believe Florida just inspects and burns live hives technically. But luckily Spartanburg is much closer than that!
On that note, good link above, they do EO and Gamma. AND,

[JohnK and Sheri]

Don't look to FL! We burn AFB hives.

It is my understanding that treatment options can be pursued......I would assume the degree of infection would be a consideration.

From the FL statutes:
http://law.onecle.com/florida/agricu...ry/586.13.html

586.13 Removal, destruction, or treatment of infested or infected honeybees or beekeeping equipment.

(1) If the department finds any honeybees, honeybee products, or used beekeeping equipment or other articles infested or infected with honeybee pests or an unwanted race of honeybees, notification shall be given in writing to the owner or person having charge of the apiary to that effect. The owner or person in charge shall, under the supervision of the department and within 48 hours after notice, cause the infested and infected honeybees, honeybee products, or beekeeping equipment or other article to be removed from this state or destroyed if the problem cannot be successfully treated, as determined by the department. If successful treatment is possible, the owner or person in charge shall, under the supervision of the department, follow the treatment as prescribed in the notice of the department.

[MCI]

It is my understanding that treatment options can be pursued......

This is from the Division of Plant Industry website. http://www.freshfromflorida.com/pi/p...y/ap-fees.html If you follow this treatment regimen you are in the clear.

"•All hives found infested with American Foulbrood disease shall be destroyed by burning. Other hives in the bee yard shall be quarantined for a minimum of 30 days."

It is my understanding all other you can be given a chance to remedy.

[fish_stix]

JohnK and Sheri; the following summary from the FL Division of Plant Industry should clear up your misunderstanding of FL law. http://www.freshfromflorida.com/pi/p...y/ap-fees.html
Scroll down to the paragraph Quarantine and Destruction or Treatment of Infested Hives. As you can see there is no treatment option, only burning of AFB hives.

[JohnK and Sheri]

Thanks MCI and fish stix for clearing that up.
Sheri

[jean-marc]

I just purchased a 53 foot shipping container. It's a refrigerated unit so... any wax moth issues can be resolved here. 3 days in the cold and it will kill eggs larvae and adults. Not sure about the eggs. I think it would do a number on SH as well. Keep in mind less than 50% relative humidity and SHB eggs do not hatch.

AFB is regular usage of Tylosin. Then we just don't see it, AFB that is.

Jean-MArc

[Skinner Apiaries]

jeanmarc, I need a like button

[jean-marc]

Yes and all I need to do is push a button and it fires up on its own. Push a second button to set the temperature. Make sure to feed it plenty of diesel and it's all good except for the waxmoths...

Jean-Marc

[Heavenly bees]

Hossein Yeganehrad from Caspian Apiaries eliminates afb from his colonies with his method

http://www.caspianapiaries.com/info/AFBpres.pdf

[Skinner Apiaries]

Hossein Yeganehrad from Caspian Apiaries eliminates afb from his colonies with his method

http://www.caspianapiaries.com/info/AFBpres.pdf

yea, it's just another infomercial for his product. Ironically I can put "a tiny amount of antibiotics" in my syrup as easily as he does in his solution. He does make some interesting claims about splits tho... He's probably never seen beetles...