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    Question on smoking a hive. I have a hive in a tree hole. The person who owns the tree does not want ANY cutting of the tree to get hive out. And they are at the point where they want to destroy the hive. Question is can I use enough smoke to entice them to evac the tree and then I can nail a small #8 screen over the hole?

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    Default Re: Smoke out

    No, it won't work. Sounds like a trap out will be you're only option if the homeowner isn't willing to live with the bees.
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    Default Re: Smoke out

    Trap out is the way to go.

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    Yep, trap out.
    You might try something....
    Try flooding them out, filling the tree with a water hose very slowly.
    I don't know if it'll work or not, just a thought.
    Probably won't work if there's much broodcomb above the opening in the tree, but maybe it would be honey comb instead with no place to cluster, maybe they'd flood out. Like I say, just a thought.
    “When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the rest of the world.” – John Muir

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    Default Re: Smoke out

    You can smoke heavily and get SOME bees to move out (temporarily). You can't get anywhere near all of them. I've never tried bee quick or other things to drive them out. My guess is if that worked you read more about that and less about trap outs... I may try it someday to find out.
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    I've seen bees driven out of their colony eager to take over a very weak colony (like a weak observation hive right outside the entrance).

    I'd see if I could set up a box with a couple of frames of open brood and nurse bees a few feet from the entrance (on a ladder if necessary). Get permission to drill a very small hole (as small a bit you can get that is long enough) opposite the entrance, and inject a small amount of Bee-Go. If you get this behind the colony, you will drive them out. If they smell the brood and find empty comb, they will probably move right in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    I've never tried bee quick or other things to drive them out. My guess is if that worked you read more about that and less about trap outs... I may try it someday to find out.
    Remember, any removal folks that are not certified pesticide applicators will not admit to using any chemicals (at least in most states).

    I've seen bee-go used in a hypodermic needle, it works quite well to drive the bees out. As I said above, I've seen them try to take over an observation hive...in the morning, the ob hive colony was intact, and the colony that had been driven out was clustered between the ob hive and the wall.

    deknow

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