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  1. #1
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    Default Help! My queen is gone and the brood box frames are blackened!

    I just did a hive inspection and no brood! I have/had a mildew issue, and replaced the upper boxes, but not the brood box. Just now replaced the brood box and replaced the frames which were empty and left the ones with some honey.

    The blackened (really a very dark brown) frames were where the brood should be. The cells are sunken. Also, did not see any queen cells.

    Has anyone seen this? Please advise!!

    How long do I have to get a new queen? Does anyone know where to get a new Italian queen?

    Thank you, Forum, for any help on this.

    Anne

  2. #2
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    Default Re: Help! My queen is gone and the brood box frames are blackened!

    Were these new frames that have darkened? Get some pics and post them.

  3. #3
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    Default Re: Help! My queen is gone and the brood box frames are blackened!

    Hi, thanks for responding. I've been reading and now wonder if this could be nosema? This happened after a very wet winter and we have mildew.

    Here is a photo of a damaged frame. Not sure if forum's "attach photo" will work, so here is also a link to the photo.



    https://www.me.com/gallery/#100006

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    Default Re: Help! My queen is gone and the brood box frames are blackened!

    Forgot to mention - double click the photo to see enlarged.

    Should I also post to diseases and pests?

    Thanks!!

  5. #5
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    Default Re: Help! My queen is gone and the brood box frames are blackened!

    These are not new frames. They are 1 year old and in mildewed box.

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    Default Re: Help! My queen is gone and the brood box frames are blackened!

    I do not know your apple id and password so I was not able to view the picture LOL

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    Default Re: Help! My queen is gone and the brood box frames are blackened!

    I can't see the picture but what you describe sounds like nosema. Did they poop all over the boxes? Since you don't know when you went queenless its hard to say how long you have before you lose the hive. I would treat them with fumagilin and get a new queen asap!

  8. #8
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    Default Re: Help! My queen is gone and the brood box frames are blackened!

    I'm testing with another link to photo of frame, hopefully password removed.

    testing, testing..

    http://gallery.me.com/sammymocha#100...&bgcolor=black

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    Default Re: Help! My queen is gone and the brood box frames are blackened!

    From the looks of it, I don't see a problem. Darkened wax is pretty common and the frame stain looks more like an area that the wax covered. I can't see the cells so I can't tell how shrunken the caps are. There are a lot of queen suppliers and you can get a queen pretty quickly. I'd be ordering one today!
    "My wife always wanted girls. Just not thousands and thousands of them......"

  10. #10
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    Default Re: Help! My queen is gone and the brood box frames are blackened!

    That frame is perfectly normal. Combs darken when they've had brood in them because each emerging bee leaves behind a cocoon plus the bees track propolis and their dirty feet over the combs. The only "sunken" cells I see are pollen. Only other problem is that the bees are backfilling the brood nest with honey. If you're sure you're queenless call around to the CA queen breeders, you have many to choose from. Also Kona Queen in Hawaii. If you can't get a local queen try Miksa Honey Farms in Groveland, FL; ph 352-429-3447.

  11. #11
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    Default Re: Help! My queen is gone and the brood box frames are blackened!

    Yeah I agree, Nothing wrong there. You just need a queen? Try Koehnen's In the Central valley they ship lovely fat queens. http://www.koehnen.com/
    My friend got 3 beauties from them earlier in the year.

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