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  1. #1
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    Default Slovenian AZ Beehive

    I have been searching the website for plans on this particular hive and have had
    almost zero results. Found only one website from Slovenia and their arrticular plans left more questions than answers. Any infor on additional websites or plans for this particular hive would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks much...
    pamlar

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Are you talking about this type or this person and his approach on Beekeeping

    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...-from-Slovenia

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Yes, that was the thread that made me start my unsuccessful search for plans that would be clear enough to build hives like that.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Best plans i could find
    http://www.pcelinjak.hr/index.php/Ko...-a-konica.html
    AZ beehive is difficult to build looking at plans
    People here usually buy one and then copy it

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    t0k...thanks for the website. Yes, I see that it would be very difficult to make an AZ hive using these plans. Do you have a website that sells them? Thanks...

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Would love to have one of the folks who bought one then built one post the plans. I've been unable to find a store i can purchase one of there hives from.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Those don't look that hard to build. There are round rods about 1" up from the bottom that hold the frames up on the lowest level, and a pair of frame spacers on each end to maintain frame spacing. The suppers have about 3/8" space under the frames. It would probably be easiest to make the frames langstroth sized so you could put foundation in them. But they could be any size, with the rest to the hive sized to match the frames. There is a entrance for each floor, and a space to slide a queen excluder in. The front with the bee entrance is double walled with a dead air space.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Tohya;
    My whole life, I have been able to build anything from wood or metal if I had plans clear enough for me to understand. But, for whatever reason, I am not able to clearly forge ahead on my own with just a verbal description or a set of "sketchy" plans that leave many questions open to the builder...I envy those that can. That is why I am looking for a set of good clear plans. I am in full agreement with you that langstroth dimensions could/should/would be beneficial in fabricating these AZ hives.
    Pamlar

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    I got a quote from Bostjan Tovornik, member of this forum some time ago. He is a nice guy and will help out. The problem is that this hives are really expensive -my opinion.
    He will give you the plans for the bee house as well as the hive.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    MichaBees;
    Thats good news...Sounds just like what I'm looking for. Do you know how I could contact him?
    Thanks
    Pamlar

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Pamlar, this is the email I have used to contact him;

    boss-tech@hotmail.com

    If you end up making some hives, I would consider buying one.

    Aurelio (leo) Paez
    DBA MichaBees.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Has anyone had any luck with obtaining an AŽ hive? I've been doing a bit of research and have found a lot of sources on Slovenian web sites, however I'm not sure anyone will ship to the US. Ideally a set of good plans would be helpful. I'm planning on making one if I cannot get one next winter....I can send links of the stuff I found just let me know.

    http://www.bolha.com/cebelarstvo/az-...glas1277523218


    http://www.logar-trade.si/p/Panj-10-...lasid=10601000

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Hi, I'm sorry about bumping an old thread on my first post, but I'm very curious about the AZ hive.

    I've wanted one ever since I heard about them a couple years ago. Today I saw one for sale on eBay but I'm concerned about the listing saying it's made of "high quality spruce". Since it's made of spruce I'm guessing it's meant to be used ONLY inside a beehouse. I live in a very cool, wet climate (rain 10 months out of the year) so I don't think it would work outdoors? All my other hives are WRC, except one which is cypress.

    Any opinions would be very much appreciated.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Ziva, Paint it and it will be fine. Most U.S. bee boxes are made of pine. No big deal. Once you have it you'll have a template and any local woodworker can replicate it. Maybe you could use some red cedar. Thats pretty easy to get in your area. Maybe if you're lucky you could even find the lumber for nothing at the free store on Lopez Island. :-)
    To find out more about me go to
    www.broomsbylittlejohn.com

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Take another look at the concept of the hive, im not sure they are really meant to be exposed or freestanding, my guess is that you would be far better off placing it under a shed or constructing a bee house. Just my take on it.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariner View Post
    Take another look at the concept of the hive..
    Search beesource - we just discussed this beehive in details a week ago. I believe, there were links for decent plans. I agree that design is very confusing and yes, it is my understanding that it should be part of the "beehouse", not stand alone hive.
    Серёжа, Sergey

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Thank you Mariner and cerezha-----that confirms what I thought about the hive not intended to be used freestanding. It needs a shelter.

    Wildforager, yes, that was my intent to use it as a template to have more made. Western Red Cedar is easy to get here, but I'm on a different island (not on Lopez) and we don't have a "free wood store". Lucky Lopez Islanders! :-)

    cerezha, I will search for the recent thread, I found 4 when I was searching yesterday but I missed the recent one. Will try again.

    Thanks again everyone.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Type "AŽ košnice" in google picture search and You'll see beehouse and how are transported, also there are 10 frame - standard. 11-12 frames "AŽ GROM". On a small place more hives, extremelly mobile.. But difficult to make and expensive.. Some says even You get all measures always something goes wrong, the best is buy one and copy-paste. And have a "fun" to assemble it.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Goran, thank you for the information. Yes, I did buy the 10-frame AZ to use it to copy from and make more ( after I find someone to help me!). You are right, it will be "fun" trying to assemble it!

    (My family is from Filipovac but then they moved to Zagreb and then America before I was born).

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Good luck and it's great hive, but need practice to work with it - to adapt operations to it. Here are more common 11-12 frame AŽ GROM.
    Also to make easier to work and less expensive and easier to assemble some people took the frame size of AŽ grom and make it as langstroth bodies.
    They are great for overwintering, cluster is in one body always in contact with food and in good formation ( no "death space" as someone call it).
    BUT there is no bad hive just a bad beekeeper.
    I work with langstroth ( LR).

    Regards.
    Last edited by Goran; 11-14-2012 at 03:36 PM.

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