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    Default Slovenian AZ Beehive

    I have been searching the website for plans on this particular hive and have had
    almost zero results. Found only one website from Slovenia and their arrticular plans left more questions than answers. Any infor on additional websites or plans for this particular hive would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks much...
    pamlar

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Are you talking about this type or this person and his approach on Beekeeping

    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...-from-Slovenia

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Yes, that was the thread that made me start my unsuccessful search for plans that would be clear enough to build hives like that.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Best plans i could find
    http://www.pcelinjak.hr/index.php/Ko...-a-konica.html
    AZ beehive is difficult to build looking at plans
    People here usually buy one and then copy it

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    t0k...thanks for the website. Yes, I see that it would be very difficult to make an AZ hive using these plans. Do you have a website that sells them? Thanks...

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Would love to have one of the folks who bought one then built one post the plans. I've been unable to find a store i can purchase one of there hives from.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Take another look at the concept of the hive, im not sure they are really meant to be exposed or freestanding, my guess is that you would be far better off placing it under a shed or constructing a bee house. Just my take on it.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariner View Post
    Take another look at the concept of the hive..
    Search beesource - we just discussed this beehive in details a week ago. I believe, there were links for decent plans. I agree that design is very confusing and yes, it is my understanding that it should be part of the "beehouse", not stand alone hive.
    Серёжа, Sergey

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Thank you Mariner and cerezha-----that confirms what I thought about the hive not intended to be used freestanding. It needs a shelter.

    Wildforager, yes, that was my intent to use it as a template to have more made. Western Red Cedar is easy to get here, but I'm on a different island (not on Lopez) and we don't have a "free wood store". Lucky Lopez Islanders! :-)

    cerezha, I will search for the recent thread, I found 4 when I was searching yesterday but I missed the recent one. Will try again.

    Thanks again everyone.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Type "AŽ košnice" in google picture search and You'll see beehouse and how are transported, also there are 10 frame - standard. 11-12 frames "AŽ GROM". On a small place more hives, extremelly mobile.. But difficult to make and expensive.. Some says even You get all measures always something goes wrong, the best is buy one and copy-paste. And have a "fun" to assemble it.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Goran, thank you for the information. Yes, I did buy the 10-frame AZ to use it to copy from and make more ( after I find someone to help me!). You are right, it will be "fun" trying to assemble it!

    (My family is from Filipovac but then they moved to Zagreb and then America before I was born).

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Quote Originally Posted by Goran View Post
    Type "AŽ košnice" in google picture search and You'll see beehouse and how are transported, also there are 10 frame - standard. 11-12 frames "AŽ GROM". On a small place more hives, extremelly mobile.. But difficult to make and expensive.. Some says even You get all measures always something goes wrong, the best is buy one and copy-paste. And have a "fun" to assemble it.
    Hi Goran:

    DO you have plans for a very small siomple bee house for an AZ hive. I am expecting one in a few weeks and haven't any idea how to build the housing.
    Thanks!
    Peg

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Ziva, I really enjoyed the detail pictures you shared! Thank you so much!! It will be interesting to hear what you think of the hive in use. I wonder if the curved tops and bottoms of the frames are for beespace from front to back or for the frames to slide easier on the bars or something similar.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Quote Originally Posted by Colleen O. View Post
    Ziva, I really enjoyed the detail pictures you shared! Thank you so much!!
    You're welcome!
    Quote Originally Posted by Colleen O. View Post
    It will be interesting to hear what you think of the hive in use.
    I'm interested too! But until I figure out how the hive works (like aligning frames, and a zillion other things) I can't put bees in! Also, it's not meant to be a free-standing hive. I don't have the money to build a beehouse/shed/shelter so it'll be a while. Wish I could start it in spring, but too much to figure out first.....and get the money to build a shelter.....



    Quote Originally Posted by Colleen O. View Post
    I wonder if the curved tops and bottoms of the frames are for beespace from front to back or for the frames to slide easier on the bars or something similar.
    I would also like to know the purpose. Right now I'm just guessing! (like I wrote in the above post). One thing I can say for sure, the AZ hive gives a whole new meaning to the term, "steep learning curve"!!

    Ah, the joys and challenges of beekeeping.........

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziva View Post
    Ah, the joys and challenges of beekeeping.........
    Come on! I am sure, you will figured everything out and we will be jealous watching (more pictures I guess) your busy bees in this beautiful hive. In fact, I already jealous! Unfortunately, I have no space for beehouse... and I am limited to 2 beehives total!
    Серёжа, Sergey

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    I find the hive designs very interesting and the bee houses very creative and beautiful. While we do not get snow, maybe once every 4 years, in Houston I very much like the idea of not unstacking and re-stacking hive bodies very interesting. I cannot translate the designs and quite a few of the English translated sites are broken or are no longer active (or my companies filters do not let me go there).
    I think I would lean towards the three "box" design but would be interested in the yearly maintenance timeline processes for the two box system using the queen excluder. I would be interested in knowing the dimensions of the frames, foundation, and what type of foundation is typically used. For example if using wax foundation is it all crush and strain or do they use extractors?
    I did look at the eBay listing for the 2 "box" hive and thought the price was reasonable (beautiful workmanship), but the shipping is pretty high (almost doubles the hive cost).
    Also the feeders look pretty small which may mean two feedings a day during winter?
    I am going back to the start of the thread to read again to see what I missed...
    Thanks for sharing a very interesting method of beekeeping!
    Mike
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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Quote Originally Posted by mmmooretx View Post
    I cannot translate the designs and quite a few of the English translated sites are broken or are no longer active (or my companies filters do not let me go there).
    I know, I have the same problem! Many (most) of the links I've seen are the same----broken or no longer active, so it's not just your filters. Frustrating! Not to mention lack of managing info available in English....

    Quote Originally Posted by mmmooretx View Post
    I think I would lean towards the three "box" design but would be interested in the yearly maintenance timeline processes for the two box system using the queen excluder. I would be interested in knowing the dimensions of the frames, foundation, and what type of foundation is typically used. For example if using wax foundation is it all crush and strain or do they use extractors?
    According to the beekeeper Goran spoke too, he prefers the Grom (11-12 frames) rather than the standard (10 frames) that I have. Goran also mentioned about wiring frames so that sounds like they use extractors. I have Warrés and a kTBH so I do crush and strain. With the AZ hive, I'll do what is recommended by AZ beeks. I measured the frame in the AZ hive and the dimensions are 410mm (16 1/8") wide and 263mm (10 3/8") deep.


    Quote Originally Posted by mmmooretx View Post
    I did look at the eBay listing for the 2 "box" hive and thought the price was reasonable (beautiful workmanship), but the shipping is pretty high (almost doubles the hive cost).
    I know but they aren't available in the US so ordering from Slovenia was the only option. Although the shipping nearly doubled the hive cost, I thought it was reasonable considering the size and weight and shipping from half way around the world. And the shipping was fast too! The seller sent it immediately. He also has a listing for the UK and I noticed the shipping cost was ~the same!


    Quote Originally Posted by mmmooretx View Post
    Also the feeders look pretty small which may mean two feedings a day during winter?
    Yes, they are small, so that's another management technique I would like more info on! There are separate feeders, 1 for each chamber, but it still seems like daily feeding would be necessary during dearths/bad weather unless they have enough stores.


    Quote Originally Posted by mmmooretx View Post
    I am going back to the start of the thread to read again to see what I missed...
    Thanks for sharing a very interesting method of beekeeping!
    You're welcome! While you read through the thread you'll see where I posted a link to another thread posted by Bostek in Slovenia who has AZ hives. He posted a video showing him inspecting a hive.

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Quote Originally Posted by cerezha View Post
    Come on! I am sure, you will figured everything out and we will be jealous watching (more pictures I guess) your busy bees in this beautiful hive. In fact, I already jealous! Unfortunately, I have no space for beehouse... and I am limited to 2 beehives total!
    Don't be jealous! I live in a small apt/flat. Talk about no space!! Trust me, I understand! That's why I have a lot to figure out! My hives are located on a small farm and two others on a friend's property. But, I can't stand not being able to see the hives every day soooooo, I have a hive on my tiny balcony! Just barely enough room for the hive and a small chair. As far as a beehouse, it will definitely need to be built on a trailer/wheels and be put on a farm somewhere. It will be on wheels so I can move it if the farmer's decide they want me too. Building on wheels adds the cost of a trailer, so I really need to get creative to figure out how to do this since I'm very low income! I go without heat in the winter so I can save the money to buy bee stuff. I'm determined!!

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziva View Post
    ... I have a hive on my tiny balcony! Just barely enough room for the hive and a small chair. ....
    Could you make a sort of box around AZ hive on your balcony? You do not need a whole beehouse. It may be just some space for thermoinsulation. Another completely weird idea - if you keep your room cold, you could place AZ beehive in the window (like window air conditioner) so the back is in the room (sort of adapter for the window needed). It is weird, but, actually, this is probably would be closest communication with the bees... In Russia, in winter, people in the villages used to have one room in the house without heating. They kept beehives in the room entrances facing outside wall. In the wall, they made a small holes connecting hive exits to outside (sort of tunnel). Sorry, I did not mean to make fun from your situation. I wish you success. Sergey
    Серёжа, Sergey

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    Default Re: Slovenian AZ Beehive

    Quote Originally Posted by Pamlar View Post
    I have been searching the website for plans on this particular hive and have had
    almost zero results. Found only one website from Slovenia and their arrticular plans left more questions than answers. Any infor on additional websites or plans for this particular hive would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks much...
    pamlar
    Hi:

    If you are interested in purchasing one already built, try Logar in SLovenia. Nadja is very helpful and speaks English very well. The cost of the hive is $240 (20 frames) but the shipping is about $195. Also the foundation is different size than Langstroth and is thicker so you would have to rig something up or go foundationless. I am thinking of purchasing one if I can solve this problem.

    Peg
    igep21@gmail.com

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