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  1. #1
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    Default diagnoses please

    Ok, here are the symptoms

    Pile of dead bees on the outside of the bottom board
    NO poop on the outside of the hives
    Feed still in hives
    That is all i have got. Hives not openned yet

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    Default Re: diagnoses please

    Without pictures it is hard to tell. Possible tracheal mite??? That is a long shot diagnosis. I went to your website. Really neat site. TED

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    Default Re: diagnoses please

    Are the hives dead? If so you would want to open them up to find the reason.

    If they are alive with just have a pile of dead bees it could be normal winter die off.
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    Default Re: diagnoses please

    I'm also thinking tracheal mite

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    Default Re: diagnoses please

    open hive

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    Default Re: diagnoses please

    feed in hive but you haven't opened it.

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    Default Re: diagnoses please

    I was guessing Trachea Mites, but was not sure

    As for knowing if there is still feed
    2 feet of snow around the hives, some hives buried, and dug out. Lifted hives by the front of the bottom board to get a feel for the weight of the hive.

    Openning now is not an option. So much snow, and still cold. If there is life still, I do not want to chill what is left...So there is the conundrum
    Snow is so hard you can walk on it still. Hubby has been busy plowing to the yards to get access to them and plowing out the gates. Slow going, snow heavy and still quite high in the bush...doing this while still calving.

    I was looking for possible confirmation of what i possilby suspected, but I only had this to go on.
    Thanks for the help. Will open as soon as the weather permits

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    Default Re: diagnoses please

    According to our bee guy at Oregon State Univ. Nosema ceranae is one of the biggest contributers to bee die offs next to mites, and you wont get the spotting all over your hive from this one. From what I have heard almost every sample taken into the lab here for tests this year had alarming levels of this stuff.....
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    Default Re: diagnoses please

    Quote Originally Posted by honeyshack View Post
    I was guessing Trachea Mites, but was not sure
    If I remember you use formic in the fall, so really shouldn't be Trachea mites. I'm going with the Nosema, I fed fumidil in the fall, and still lost many hives to Nosema. Sure was a tough winter, still haven't been able to open hives down here to do full inspections.
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    Default Re: diagnoses please

    Knock on the hive if you hear buzzing they are alive. No buzz no bees

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildbranch2007 View Post
    If I remember you use formic in the fall, so really shouldn't be Trachea mites. I'm going with the Nosema, I fed fumidil in the fall, and still lost many hives to Nosema.

    I was going to use formic this fall but the temps when I was to start treatment were too low, so i went with Apivar (amitraz) for the first time. In the spring testing, no TM present (Lab analyis), so i thought not to treat for them....shoulda though.

    I did not use fumigillan in the fall because spring testing showed my levels to be really low. 1000 too 3000 per bee. I guess i really should have since the spring and summer were so stressful with all the rain and cool weather.

    Yes it was a tough winter. lots of snow, cold, lots of snow...did i mention the snow?

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    Default Re: diagnoses please

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    Knock on the hive if you hear buzzing they are alive. No buzz no bees
    Done that to every hive. Some hives made noise and some did not. Then 5 minutes later there were bees at the top. Some are still way down there. It was a cool day though. Cloud and just hovering over freezing

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    Default Re: diagnoses please

    best of luck

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