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    Default Swarm trap size

    With all the recent discussion on here about swarm trap size, I decided to measure mine up. I am running double 5 frame medium nucs for swarm traps. The inside dimensions are 6.625"x8.25"x18.25" for a total of 997.47 cubic inches, for a single 5 frame nuc. Doubled up that is 1994.94 cubic inches.

    I have heard that the European Honey Bee likes a cavity between 30-40 cubic liters. My double 5 frame medium nucs come in at 32.74 cubic liters.

    I havent seen anyone claiming to be using double 5 frame medium nucs, but it seems that I have hit the target goal for cavity size.

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    Default Re: Swarm trap size

    That's very interesting, I hope there is some more discussion on this. I have used single 5 frame nucs with some success.

    Would a 10 frame nuc work better?
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    Default Re: Swarm trap size

    Here is an interesting study that might help. I am using 6 frame two tall medium nucs this year. They are about 39 liters.
    I know many will not agree but I firmly believe 6 frame mediums are the perfect size for many common purposes.

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    Default Re: Swarm trap size

    I have caught swarms that would not fit in a five frame nuc.

    Yes a deep is better.

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    Default Re: Swarm trap size

    rkr-Thanks for the link, looks to be a very interesting and enlightening study. I hope that I can take some of the information in it and turn it into swarms!

    Just glancing at it, i see that the bees prefered the 40 liter cavity over the 10 and 100 liter size, and that Seeley claims that the size of the swarm did not determine the cavity size.

    I plan on putting out about 20 swarm traps over a 30 mile radius, and some will be double 5 frame nucs, single 8 frame mediums, and 3 tbh that measure about 65 cubic liters. The results could be facsinating.

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    NY_BLUES

    With that many traps over such a area, I for one am definitely looking for updates on your progress.

    Please keep us informed.

    Oh. what is the dates of your swarm season ?

    Thanks

    PCM

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    Default Re: Swarm trap size

    Quote Originally Posted by PCM View Post
    NY_BLUES
    Please keep us informed.
    Yeah, what PCM said!!!!
    I would love to see your results. Do you plan on keeping notes about height, general location characteristics and dates? You’re bound to find a few good spots.
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