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  1. #1
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    Default SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    Has anyone heard of anything new that works to get rid of these horrible critters?
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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    Moving to Alaska?

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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    LOL, Lived there already and miss it a lot. Not quite the solution I was hoping for...but the fishing and hunting would take up my spare time since I wouldn't be keeping bees up there.
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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    Opened a hive yesterday that was totally infested with SHB. Looked like it was late August This hive is in the sun and was fairly strong. I reduced it to only a single deep hive body and replaced the frames with new ones that I had kept frozen during the winter filled with honey and pollen along with 3 new frames from another mega strong colony that were filled with brood. I plan on moving this hive to a new fresh beeyard. I'll give this old beeyard a rest for a year. I hope that helps the situation at least.
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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    I generally try and stay away from chemical treatment. But that said, I had a varroa infested hive (more than 50 mites on a sugar shake) when I checked a month ago. I lost a mating nuc to beetles also about 3 weeks ago. I used Checkmite+ strips to get rid of the varroa. They are also used for SHB. Since I put them in 2 weeks ago, I have seen exactly 1 SHB.

    A A lot of people here are strongly anti Checkmite. It is a serious chemical and you need to be carefull with it and subject only brood combs to it. But it did work for me.

    I also put 3 Cutt's Bettle blasters per hive body on my hives. I despise the SHB.

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    Smile Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    I have been useing the closed screen bottom board with the oil try, it takes care of the shb and mites. Good luck rock

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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    Where did you get your closed screen bottom boards from?
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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    I use an aluminum cookie sheet with oil under the screen. It is under $2. My Canadian Buckfast bees have taken care of the beetle problem in my hives. I went from hundreds to less than 10 by requeening.
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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    I may give them a try. Are they more aggressive and therefore more likely to drive SHB out?
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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    The fat bee man has a you tube video(one of many) on setting up SHB traps, inexpensive and apparently effective. Boric acid inside yard sign traps sealed in with shortening (crisco).

    May or may not work for your IPM methods.

    But if it does work and does not hurt your bees, it seems like a good inexpensive way to help control SHB numbers. Based on the video you could make hundreds of these traps easily with very little expense.

    I'm a brandy new beek with my first nuc due this spring & swarm boxes ready as well, so take my input for whatever it's worth.


    -woodguyrob

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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    Buckfast do chase down beetles more than the other bees I use. They are still gentle. This is important in the teaching hives to introduce new beekeepers.
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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rohe Bee Ranch View Post
    Where did you get your closed screen bottom boards from?
    These are the ones I like to use - I'd make them myself, but finding #6 mesh (which I believe is important) in small quantities is impossible.

    http://www.greenbeehives.com/ipk-sma...unpainted.html
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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    I have one of those Green beehives bottom boards they are made very well. The one thing I found out is you HAVE to make sure your hive is tilled forward or the rain will run back into the hive and fill up the tray. It would be easy to make one but finding the bigger size screen could be a problem as someone else mentioned. Green beehives use a nice stainless screen wire. I am happy with the one I have. But, I have found as long as you keep the hive full of bees they will run the bettles either to the top or the bottom and not cause a problem inside the hive. But, at the least sign of weakness the beetles will do what they do and slime your hive.

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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    I have to modify my 'bottom board' by adding a 3/4" slant board on top of the original (in one case I've also have replaced both with 1 2x8) to bring that board flush with the hive entrance (as if a bee couldn't hop up that short distance), and a 1x2 vertical spacer to that to move the SBB back into proper position. In retrospect, I could have cut the sides to my BB down 3/4" and done without the spacer.
    EAS Georgia Certified. "Tradition - Even if you have done it the same way for years doesn't mean that it is not stupid."

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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    I was at a conference this weekend and there was a speaker on the SHB. Long story short he mentioned several things to try and control the SHB. One thing he did suggest was to put 1 1/2" thick layer of lime or dense grade down around the hive. What this does is as the larvae fall out of the hive to pupate (sp?) the lime or dense grade scratches their bodies and they dehydrate and die. He did offer one surefire way to get rid of the SHB....a swift slam with a hive tool!
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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    Quote Originally Posted by CynCityBee View Post
    "... One thing he did suggest was to put 1 1/2" thick layer of lime or dense grade down around the hive. What this does is as the larvae fall out of the hive to pupate (sp?) the lime or dense grade scratches their bodies and they dehydrate and die..."
    Did he mention anything about the Lime and what it does to the honeybees that land in or on it by accident? Just curious...

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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    If you have enough bees to cover all of the drawn combs you should not have a problem. If you don't right now pull the drawn comb and replace with foundation. SHB's don't pay foundation any attention. Replace foundation with drawn comb in a couple of brood cycles when you have more bees. Just a suggestion.

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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    Stay away from filipronil in dvd cassette cases. While toxic to the beetles, it is highly toxic to the bees. Should this compound show up in some honey somewhere---as an industry thens TK

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    Smile Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    This works Russell's Beetle juice in the jewel cd case. Break the tabs from the sides of the lid of the case. Bees can not enter trap and the beetle die with in 3 inches of ingestion. Mix any approved kill agent with the lure to kill beetles fast. Fipronil was just approved Austrailia as beetle management and is found in tap water in every state in the US to control mosquito larvea. Also used and required in most food industries including the restraunts people eat at. I always recommend that what works best for you, keep it up. I would upload pics. I have them on my facebook account @ Honeypdg

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    Default Re: SHB-Anything new to get rid of them?

    "I have them on my facebook account @ Honeypdg " and for those of us who don't know what this is can we Google?

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