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  1. #1
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    Default Walter Kelley Frame End Bars

    I bought 100 foundationless frames from Walter Kelley in November and just started assembling them last week. The end bars look a little defective to me and I wondered what you all think. Have you purchased frames from Walter Kelley? Was one side of the end bar chopped off as in the photo below?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/33193513@N04/5483648591/

    I called Walter Kelley and spoke with someone who said she was new there. She gave me an email address to send photos to so that they could see what I was talking about. Haven't heard back but will call them on Monday to follow up.

  2. #2
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    Default Re: Walter Kelley Frame End Bars

    One end will be cut with a bevel to allow the hive tool get between the frames if they are pushed together. Mine look just like that.

    I asked a similar question here: http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...ighlight=frame
    Last edited by FindlayBee; 02-27-2011 at 07:43 PM.

  3. #3
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    Default Re: Walter Kelley Frame End Bars

    Bigwoodsbees,

    They are fine, be sure to reverse the position on the opposite end.
    BeeCurious
    Trying to think inside the box...

  4. #4
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    Default Re: Walter Kelley Frame End Bars

    They are ok I think they are the best frames I have ever had

  5. #5
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    Default Re: Walter Kelley Frame End Bars

    I have never noticed that on preassembled frames I have bought elsewhere. But I would be relieved to know that these are normal and that I can go ahead and assemble them.

  6. #6
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    Default Re: Walter Kelley Frame End Bars

    As others have said, the bees tend to propolize the end bars together, so the bevel lessens the contact space, making them easier to separate. When you put your frames together, turn them opposite directions on the top bar, and be consistent throughout all your frames. That way no matter which way they are turned in the hive, there will always be a shaved edge contacting a square edge. I use the mnemonic "right away" to assemble mine. i.e. I turn the beveled edge "away" from me on the "right" end of the top bar.

  7. #7
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    Default Re: Walter Kelley Frame End Bars

    Wow, I am glad I asked you all this question! Thank you for explaining it to me. I will make sure I assemble them as you suggest. Thanks so much for your quick replies. Sometimes being a newbee is very funny - and a little humbling.

  8. #8
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    Default Re: Walter Kelley Frame End Bars

    Kelley has been making their end bars with a bevel on one side since at least the 70's that I know of, and I'm guessing much longer. It is on purpose. Usually they ship instructions that tell you to put them all the same way on one end and the opposite way on the other end so they can be flipped and it will still work.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Walter Kelley Frame End Bars

    Love these bevel edges. You'll find them much easier to separate. I also find the quality of wood and fit consistently great in Kelley products.

  10. #10
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    Default Re: Walter Kelley Frame End Bars

    Bigwoodsbees,
    Thanks for asking that question and posting the picture. I learned something.
    Just some thoughts.

  11. #11
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    Default Re: Walter Kelley Frame End Bars

    I remember them from back in the 60s.

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