Is a foundationless 8 frame Langstroth medium, with a warre-style roof and quilt box the ultimate compromise for "natural" beekeeping? Do you get the most benefits of all of the popular hive types going this route to keeping bees? Management aside...
As people get going in beekeeping, I think we all wonder about other approaches and we naturally do our best to find the right compromise for our own set of conditions. But I wonder what the best compromise for the widest range of conditions in terms of hive type, or basic set-up.
Recognizing that each type of hive has its limitations, what is the ultimate hive type to achieve the largest number of benefits?
I mean, all things considered, does the foundationless 8 frame medium langstroth with a warre roof and quilt box set-up actually amount to just about the best mid-point of all the best qualities of different hive types? None are truly "natural" but if emulating the vertical "tree trunk" cavity, and allowing them to build their own comb with natural cell sizes is the best we can do...
... then consider the benefits:
• The benefits of having frames (reusing comb if you like; durability, ease of handling)
• Not crazy heavy boxes
• Uses the more common Langstroth equipment (albeit a less-used size)
• Smaller boxes mean closer to the optimum dimensions described by Warre for cluster during winter - but not as small as a Warre.
• Without foundation the bees are free to build whatever size cells they like.
• The Warre roof and quilt box allows a good method of climate and moisture control, without over-ventilating.
• Feasible to run a large-scale operation for commercial purposes (I think).
• Access to a larger pool of relevant information and support
I really don't know. I haven't tried them. But as I read the pros and cons of what others say, and combine that with the limited experience I have with Langstroth deeps and shallows, as well as with ktbh's I have to wonder...
...is running an operation with foundationless 8 frame mediums and warre ventilation the ultimate compromise?
What do you think? Just a point of conversation. I'm interested in hearing your perspective. And I'm not out to start a competition - just a deep consideration of what that ultimate "mid-point" is.