I think there has just been a combination of misinterpretation of tone and differing definitions of words here. I don't think anyone means to be rude either way. Hopefully we can all start over with no hard feelings.
Hey Galoways- be sure to check out not only the Top Bar Hives forum here but also the "Biological Beekeeping" forum here, which is exactly about keeping bees more 'naturally'- in terms of chemical treatment avoidance, hive designs, etc.
there is even a forum about native bees and other pollinators!
The little bee returns with evening's gloom,
To join her comrades in the braided hive... -Tennyson
I was surprised to see this posting by Don:
BeeCurious............... Trying to think inside the box...
I feel like I must apologize for some of the beekeeping brethren here on this site.They're some very experienced and extremely knowledgeable people here, but at the same time, you get nothing but questions from your posts. Everyone here knows(or should know unless they're stuck under a rock somewhere) what "natural" beekeeping means, whether it's with a Lang,a top bar or any other setup one wishes. No chemicals and the least amount of intrusion on the hive would be my first thought. But instead you have some people who have to make a big deal out of it and play dumb. Keep your head up and you'll find what you're looking for here.
If you boil it straight down to it, the only "natural" beekeeping would be letting them go into nature, and not managing them at all. So, there isn't anything "natural" about beekeeping. But we have to strike a medium somewhere. Either with few visits, no chemicals, few chemicals. More natural is relative.
Trust me, you would be shocked at the difference of answers you get. NOT everyone here knows what "natural" beekeeping means, and very few people have the same definition. We were more or less trying to figure out what Galoways' definition was to better help him in his search.
Uh, have you asked all of these different groups and organizations in your area what "natural" beekeeping means? If not, maybe you'll be surprised at the number of people who would say the same as I. Bottom line here is to be alert to what the poster is inquiring about. Give them answers, not sarcastic questions.
Last edited by Barry; 02-01-2011 at 06:52 PM. Reason: excessive quoting
Yes, actually I have. I have had conversations with NC Master Beekeepers and "Beekeeping Doctors" (technically they have Entomology PhD's, but that's really just semantics) about Natural Beekeeping, organic beekeeping, and chemical free beekeeping. As stated previously, it's open to interpretation.
Good job asking me the same question without actually thinking about what I said. Very tricky.
OK friends, things need to go in a different direction here. This is not the place to have your own debate about what is natural. Give the new member a break and lighten up.
Thank you Barry!
Yes Barry, thanks. Thanks for not coming down to hard on the newbies.
Good job asking me the same question without actually thinking about what I said. Very tricky.[/QUOTE]
I did think about what you said, and thought it was rediculous. Not a trick.