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    Default Medium Nucs

    I'm looking for medium 5-6 frame nuc box or a split medium 10 frame box design.
    Would need to have a separate screened hole to draw robbers away from main entrance. Any one using something close ? Pics

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    I've seen the deep plans on here and they won't work cause the holes become to close together on the medium to be effective.

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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    Quote Originally Posted by tefer2 View Post
    Any one using something close ? Pics
    I use wine boxes for medium frame bait hives.


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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    Yet another excuse to buy wine BY THE CASE

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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    here is a link with photos on the med plans for plywood
    http://s699.photobucket.com/albums/v.../hive%20plans/

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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    SCDW - that's pretty cool, but how do you get the drowned bees out of the feeder?

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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    Thanks all for the info so far.
    odfrank, I think drinking all that wine would give me a big hangover. I'd be needing some help to get that much drank up by spring. Good idea.

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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    My bees don't drown, they are smart, and they build comb, if they need it. In my experience drowned bees in division board feeders are usually caused by robbing. How do you think commercials feed, with thousands of hives, quart jars. A stick in the bottom of the feeder is usually enough to take care of any drowning. Pouring slower to give the bees time to move out of the way will help also. Use what you want, I just thought the pics might help.

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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    scdw - I think you misunderstand - I wasn't being critical - I think the design of having the two sided division board feeder as the divider is ingenious, but I don't see how you would very easily clean it out if it got any dead bees (or comb for that matter) in it.

    In my somewhat limited experience if you give bees a place to drown in syrup a few of them end up doing so. But admittedly my experience in that is limited, and I could be wrong.

    So, please allow me to restate - Does your feeder/divider have a provision to allow you to clean it out in case it gets debris in it?

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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    I've been looking for a design of a division board and a feeder all in one, but I havn't been able to find one anywhere.

    Good work scdw, but I'm afraid I can't really see how you built it from the pictures. I don't want to be too inquisitive, but is there any way that you can take a few extra pictures to help me see how you built it? Or perhaps you can just explain it? Thanks.

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    I'll send you a PM

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    Fantastic. Can't wait.

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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    Thanks scdw

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    Your welcome

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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    Sorry, about being so defensive, I have been beat up on this forum lately. I don't have many drown in these feeders. the ones that do, the bees clean out.

    Having a bad day
    David Whitfield

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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    Are there any problems with the "hives" being so close together? That single hive divided looks like a great idea to me, but do you have to do anything special to keep the two colonies separated? I mean things like entrance placement, or like when you open the lid, do they wander over into the other colonies side?

    That has kinda put me off of dividing a hive like that to make a nuc, but its just cause I dont know enough about it.

    Rob

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    We have breeder boxes that are divided into 3 and 4 parts and we run 3 or 4 queens in each of them without any problems.We actually cut down a bunch of older boxes we had from a queen grafting project and are making medium nucs off of them.After they start laying in the breeder boxes we can pull out a couple of frames and put them in a 5 frame nuc and then pull the divider and leave 2-4/5 frame colonies in the breeder box.When they start building you put them in your regular equipment.We are overwintering some of these indoors from a late Sept.graft that we did so that we can feed them all winter if needed. We hope the new queens will really take off come spring.

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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    Where do they get those little frames that go in those smaller nucs? Are they homemade? I have never caught them in a catalog, they seem to only come with the mini mating nucs. If you use smaller frames like in a mini nuc, how do you move all that stuff to a normal sized nuc? I am probably missing something here....

    Rob

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    Default Re: Medium Nucs

    I'm talking 10 frame equipment that we divide into 4 breeder units by putting a divider board in them.If you split it into 4 equal parts you can get 2 frames in each.Just enough room to get the queen started laying without needing too many bees to maintain and guard the hive.When she starts laying we pull out 2 of the sections and put them in regular 5 frame nucs.Pull the 2 divider boards and that leaves you with 2-4 or 5 frame sections in the box.When all of those build out you put them in 10 frame boxes.It just takes regular deep or medium frames.

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