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  1. #1
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    Default Bee space is extremely important

    Just read (Top cover design) link. I AM AMAZED! The beek questioned using a flat top cover because his top bars are only 3/16 below the hive top. We have been getting so many poorly made boxes from suppliers for so long that no one knows what the proper demensions are! The bottom board has a 3/8 inch rim. Right! The bottom bars of the first box should be flush with the bottom of the box. That gives you 3/8 bee space at the bottom board. Right! If the frames are flush with the bottom of the box, you will have 3/8 inch between the top of bars and top rim of the box. Every box should be the same.
    RECAP! Proper beespace. Bottom bars flush with bottom of box! Top bars 3/8 below top rim of box.

  2. #2
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    Cookeville, TN, USA
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    Default Re: Bee space is extremely important

    My boxes have 3/16 space both above and below the frames which works great weather the inner cover is flat or not - I can use a migratory cover, and I can just staple some hardware cloth or a piece of plywood on the bottom of a box and still have bee space top and bottom. I have very very little burr comb either above or below.

    What is wrong with that?

  3. #3
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    Default Re: Bee space is extremely important

    jjbbee: 3/16" at the bottom plus 3/16" at the top; when you stack the next box on top you have 3/8". My bottom boards have a 3/4" rim; guess my bees will be dying off soon, huh? Build YOUR boxes the way YOU want them! Somehow, with only 3/16" at the top on a single story my bees seem to get along just fine. No complaints about any of the store bought hive bodies we've used.

  4. #4
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    Concrete, WA, USA
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    Default Re: Bee space is extremely important

    im with Fish stix on this - id better go out and dump out every hive of bees - hate to have them die on there own because my bottoms are 3/4 " rimmed

    of all the things that kill bees ,........... this would have been the last thing i thought of to check

    but yeah - build them the way to want - - as long as its not a huge gape

    also ive never seem burr comb on the bottoms of the bottom hive body box

  5. #5
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    Fairfield County, Connecticut, USA
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    Default Re: Bee space is extremely important

    Different manufactures had different frame positioning. Some had bottom space or top space... And there was also split spacing, where the frames had equal spacing top and bottom.

    You can buy all of your boxes from the same supplier to help assure that your beespace remains uniform.
    BeeCurious
    Trying to think inside the box...

  6. #6
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    Default Re: Bee space is extremely important

    I have been going over this same thought for months now
    and swore I would see /read why it is you Build a bottom board
    and have a 3/4 strip/rim on three sides of it and either a screen,
    slotted or solid bottom and if screen or not make a dado for pan or solid
    panel to slide in.
    You then stack box on box on Box then choose a lid I won't start on Lids
    but after you got this all figured out you put in a upper entrance then you go down the road and buy a nuc and its a shoe box with frames and bees live in it
    15 Beeks asked 35 answers returned
    I am new but realize this
    NO RULES, some good logic and most times things just work
    and when you think all is good
    watch out

    always remember bee space is 3/8" but no telling if its North South East West

  7. #7
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    Nehawka, Nebraska USA
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    Default Re: Bee space is extremely important

    The typical top beespace seems to run between 3/16" and 1/4" with a flat cover.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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