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  1. #1
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    Default hive storage for winter...

    i have a piece of commercial property that is empty and i'm starting to store my empty hives in there..

    found one of my empty boxes being attacked by termites, so i figure since i have an available storage option.. why not...

    supers with empty comb and deeps also with empty comb..

    problem is i found a few wax moths on them.. so I'm sure someone laid an egg or two .. thousand...

    so will throwing moth balls into the boxes do anything and is there anything i can do to keep the wax moth larvae, if it shows up, from destroying the comb? Other than ffreezing them? i dont have that option available..

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...x-moth-control

    This works well for wax moths.

    Try sharing a purchase if you can.
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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    How much comb do you need to protect?
    Last edited by BeeCurious; 10-20-2015 at 04:26 AM.
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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    I store my supers with drawn frames in the barn on their sides. The barn does have a few windows in which the barn has some light infiltrating. Moths hate light. Haven't had a problem yet.

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    I use acetic acid, but you will need to reapply during the winter down there I expect. It doesn't last all winter but up here the freezing temps take care of that.

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    Camero7, you use acetic acid, as in, vinegar? How do you apply it?

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    I use pure acetic acid. I use a pump sprayer and spray the top bars and stack it. If I don't get back to it on 3-4 months I might see some wax moths but not that many and another spray treatment handles that problem immediately.

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    I use pure acetic acid

    What do you mean by this? What concentration are you using?

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    99%

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    Mothballs are not approved for honey supers. The approved treatment is PDB. I think that is paradichlorobenzine or something like that.

    If you will stack the boxes with slats between them and a cover on the top of each stack so that light and air can penetrate the wax moths won't survive after a good freeze. The bees will clean up the mess next spring.

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    I'm in central Texas... The odds of it getting below 32 are slim.... And if it does it's usually only for a few minutes to an hour... Yes... I don't even know what that white fluffy stuff is the yanks talk about all the time... I have drones in January...

    Locking them in the dark building with no breeze and no light. And a constant warming temp is probably going to be a happy breeding colony for wax moths... Maybe I should switch to them instead of bees..

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    99%, Wow, how do you apply it?

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    I use a pump sprayer, spray the top bars and stack and cover. Works pretty well. However, if you do this in the spring with deadouts be sure to revisit the stack in the middle of summer with more acid. It wears off and the moths will attack. Another spray deals with that quite well.

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    I spray my frames with BT Aizawai and stack them up for winter. Never have had a problem with wax moths. Easy to use, no lingering odor, and safe for the bees.
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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    Quote Originally Posted by camero7 View Post
    99%
    That stuff (anhydrous or glacial acetic acid) is corrosive as heck! In chem lab, we used to use nitrile gloves (it melts latex) and a face shield under a fume hood to handle it. i.e. do NOT get it on your skin or in your lungs or eyes.

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    I do wear eye protection and nitrile gloves but have never had a problem other than some coughing

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    I use a pump sprayer,

    You don't have any problems with the fumes and irritations?

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    Default Re: hive storage for winter...

    I only do it outside and I stay downwind. No irritations yet. Have had some on my hands and no problems, just rinsed with water.

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