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    Smile Honey Soda Pop

    We just made this recipe last week, it is fantastic to say the least.

    The recipe came from November 1993 American Bee Journal by John Iannuzzi page 771.

    We purchased our yeast and extract on line.
    You need eight empty 2 liter bottles to put the ingredients into.

    Ingredients

    1/8 oz dry wine yeast
    4 gallon H2o-water (=32#)
    2 quarts honey (=6#)
    2 fl oz of rootbeer extract

    We mixed out ingredients in a five gallon bucket then filled eight cleaned 2 liter plastic soda bottles with the mix, placed the filled 2 liter bottles with their lids screwed on tight on the floor of wifes laundry room and could hardly wait to taste test, my two youngest grandchildren were my helpers.

    Approximately 24 hours later my wife yelled "There is rootbeer on the floor in the laundry", the pressure inside the bottle had exceeded the holding pressure capacity of the used lids I guess, so we immediately put all the bottles into a refrigerator---standing upright

    I hope you enjoy trying this recipe as much as we do.



    THE MANUFACTURING

    First step-Disolve the yeast in a half cup of warm water

    Second step-Pour three gallons of warm water (80 degrees) into the five gallon white plastic bucket.

    Third step-Pour the honey into the bucket using the remaining gallon of water to rinse the honey jars.

    Fourth step- dump the extract into the bucket.

    Fifth step-Place the dissolved yeast into the bucket. Stir well.

    Sisth step-With the eight topless 2 liter plastic bottles near by, start filling using a funnel.
    Fill to within 1 inch from the top.

    Seventh step-Screw on bottle lids and place the filled plastic bottles on their sides in a warm spot for 48 hours or until the bottles get rigid.

    Eighth step-Store in refrigerator upright or prone depending on clearance.

    Enjoy!
    "Younz" have a great day, I will.

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    Default Re: Honey Soda Pop

    Yep, it's a winner! I got his permission to post it years ago:

    http://www.beesource.com/resources/e...-the-easy-way/
    Regards, Barry

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    Default Re: Honey Soda Pop

    I believe that John is from Maryland. Is he still around?
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Default Re: Honey Soda Pop

    Good question, I have no idea. I haven't seen anything from him for a long time by way of article or web posting. He was out east somewhere.
    Regards, Barry

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    Smile Re: Honey Soda Pop

    We made another batch yesterday and am patienly waiting on the plastic bottles to get ridgid so I can put them in refrigerator. This stuff is truly addictive, everyone loves it.
    Wife wants Cream Soda so have to purchase some of that extract to try. Hope we have enough honey to make it through winter!
    "Younz" have a great day, I will.

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    Default Re: Honey Soda Pop

    Power napper.... can you give us your online source for the yeast and extract. Thanks!
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    Default Re: Honey Soda Pop

    Williams Brewing is where we buy our extracts and yeast.

    williamsbrewing.com
    Last edited by power napper; 09-21-2010 at 08:04 PM. Reason: forgot to add web site
    "Younz" have a great day, I will.

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    Default Re: Honey Soda Pop

    So would this be alchoholic?

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    Technically it'll have a trace amount of alcohol, less than .5%. But yes.

    I'll offer my perennial curmudgeonly safety post: using ale yeast is the most reliable way to stop fermentation with refrigeration; wine yeast may continue at a slow pace (potentially causing grenades). Using plastic bottles greatly reduces the damage a burst bottle will cause, and also (as noted) allows you to test carbonation by squeezing.
    Bees, brews and fun
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    Default Re: Honey Soda Pop

    Is there a way to make something like this without any alcohol?

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    Not without force-carbonating, which requires some expensive equipment (CO2, regulators, fittings, keg and counterpressure filler).

    Note that this much alcohol is considered a "trace" amount, and barring religious/allergic considerations is negligible. Until recent quality-control problems, you could buy naturally-carbonated beverages such as kombucha for your 4-year-old (with a clean conscience too ). You couldn't drink enough to develop any level of intoxication (you'd suffer hydrotoxicity first).

    An alternative for those with strict dietary considerations could be to make up the syrup and drink it with a splash of carbonated water.

    As an aside DON'T try to use dry ice chips. While some smarties will try to tell you that this-many grams of dry ice equals this-many volumes of CO2 (and they're right about that), what they are missing is that the CO2 from the dry ice sublimes much faster than the gas dissolves into solution. Meaning that there's a dangerous buildup of pressure until the gas dissolves. Boom. Hope you used plastic, and did it in a room where you can mop the ceiling.
    Bees, brews and fun
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    Default Re: Honey Soda Pop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethfol View Post
    Is there a way to make something like this without any alcohol?

    Actually yes.

    You can buy carbonated water and just use that as a replacement for the water. I do this with the ginger ale we make here when I just want to do small 2 liter batches. I don't see why a person couldn't cut this back to that size batch. The trick is getting everything mixed without losing all your CO2.

    Remember to chill the carbonated water a cold as you can, cold liquids hold dissolved gasses better than warm ones, add the ingredients to water and close the container before trying to mix them, then allow them to sit until everything equalizes and dissolves.

    Using honey might be a little tricky and take longer to dissolve without a large amount of shaking and stirring but I bet it would work.

    I no longer use ANY yeast in soda, I either use the above cheat or force carbonate it. One batch of rootbeer bottle bombs changed my perspective about yeast in soda forever.

    Edit: One other thing to possibly keep in mind, your honey may in fact contain some wild yeast and by hydrating it allow fermentation. I would consider using a pasteurized honey to eliminate that possibility.

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    Smile Re: Honey Soda Pop

    We are now drinking a batch of Cream Soda made with knotweed honey, it is awesome!

    I am going to try to have a batch made and aged for Thanksgiving this year, a treat in an ice filled glass for all to enjoy.

    "Here is a toast to bees and beekeepers" will be my words.
    "Younz" have a great day, I will.

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    Default Re: Honey Soda Pop

    Heres a simple solution, why not take a soda cannister you use for a fountain drink, add co2 to it and dispense it. They make low cost fountain machines for this. All you have to do then is pour your mix into the cannister and then hook up to the co2 and water line.

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    Default Re: Honey Soda Pop

    Since we're always looking for new things for the craft shows in addition to the honey and candles, does anyone have any experience selling honey sweetened soda either by the cup from a keg or by the bottle? I have beer brewing equipment to force carbonate it. Although I've never used them, I've read about a beer gun and other gadgets to bottle carbonated beverages from a keg to avoid sediment and overpressures -- not sure how well they work. I also wonder if the honey would ferment if the soda wasn't kept refrigerated all the time.

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    Default Re: Honey Soda Pop

    Counterpressure bottle fillers take a bit of finesse to dial in but work fine. Kind of labor-intensive, certainly you wouldn't want to do very many for packaged soda sales; if they took off you'll be kicking yourself . But if you're kegging it to serve cups (draft) why bottle? And yes, unless pasteurized I suspect that honey-sweetened soda would likely start to ferment at room temp though I've not tried it.
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