extractors

[valleyman]

Just my $.02 worth.
I worked union all my life.
I believe in buying American whenever all things are even close to equal.
I think you can see what Toyota is all about after all the publicity by the news media. Which proved that they value money over our lives. Yes Gm Ford And Chrysler will do the same thing. Except that they don't have enough politicians in their pockets as Toyota does (I'm refering to the gov. report that said Toyota didn't have an electrical problem when it had been proven that they did.) to get by with wholesale murder of their customers.
PEOPLE ARE STILL BUYING THEM!!!
What about Bp? they made one of the largest ecological messes in the history of the world?
MY FRIEND HAS A BP STATION AND HIS BUSINESS HAS INCREASED!!!
Now back to the Italian (possibly union made) 9 frame radial extractor that I purchase from Big Bear to try and help him get his UNITED STATES OF AMERICA business started.
It works great!!!
I doubt very seriously that Maxant industries would have let him sell theirs for them to help both out.
There is nothing at all wrong with any thing that Maxant makes. I was just buying by far the best I could for the dollar.
If I ever expand and need a larger exctractor it defenitaly come from Maxant
so all of you folks that condem anyone for buying an extractor from a unionized country. Need to wake up and smell the roses the next time you shop Target,(French,) Kia, (Korean) Hyunda, (wherever this junk is made), Even Toyota, Honda, and all the other foreign countrys get privilages that American Companys don't get.
You worry about some hard working Mexican coming into this country illegally and doing work that any American workers and welfare recipiants won't do, while our shores and ports are flooded with chinese products that are made there for American Companys at nearly no wages at all. Most of the cost is the shipping.
WAKE UP AMERICA MAXANT WILL BE FINE, WE WON'T BE. Sorry to rant and I've only touched the tip of the iceberg. And thats another subject.

[MAXANT]

Yes, thats the one, except i got the upgraded version. NOW, that being said, I was given a lot of crap because i bought a toyota truck instead of a ford. ALL of the fords i have had since 1999 have fallen apart at 60k, same for gm and chevy. The very same products they say are american built are assembled here, not made here and the same for the toyotas coming out of texas, so anyway off my rant. I love my extractor...

I hear this! I have a lot of beeks that pick up equipment in their Toyotas, and I give them a hard time, only in good nature!
Sorry for stirring the pot, back on track!

[mac]

Stirring the pot is a good thing. Don't want the soup to burn.

[D Coates]

My brother and I own as US manufacturing business, we are not union, we employ +/- 100 employees. We buy our steel from where ever it meets specs and has the best price (US, Canada, China, Mexico), be buy our engines from three manufactures that produce their engines in the US, Thailand, Japan, and China. Our wheels are from China (no US made wheels produced any more). Our throttles and cables are from Germany and the US. Our transmissions are from two companies that make them in France, Mexico, and the US. Our belts are from India and the US and our bearings are from China. We design, test, bend, punch, weld, paint, assemble, box and ship our products all over the world. Our products are "Made in the USA" but not all the parts we use are.

We pay good wages, offer very reasonable benefits, have many employees who've been here 10 to 25 years and would rather close our doors than go union. What actually makes it VERY difficult to keep costs down are the amount of costs and red tape foisted upon US companies by the Governments (County, City, State, Federal). Those costs (unions included) aren't incurred in many other countries and they can keep their costs down. We invest in substantial equipment whenever possible and cost positive to minimize manpower. What really has many US manufactures and companies very hesitant to buy additional equipment or hire additional workers at this point is the uncertainty of how the MASSIVE government programs and spending is going to be paid for.

If we must substantially raise our prices to cover the increased taxes from the MASSIVE increases in governmental programs and spending even more jobs will move to other countries where it is economically viable. Screamming "Wake up" will do no good until until the respective governments (I don't care what party is in office) get their spending in check and learn how to say, no...

[MAXANT]

Good insightful post Coates! Maxant isnt as large as your company. We do invest in updating and/or replacing some machines on a yearly basis however.

[StevenG]

Just wanted to put my 2 cents in about extractors. Replaced my 30 year old Kelley reversible frame extractor (which replaced a two frame hand crank model) with Dadant's 20-frame radial. Went with Dadant because of quality and the fact that it will take 20 frames, deep, medium, or shallow. It would take more frames if I crowded them. Have been using it this year, and love it! Well made, runs smooth, did not bolt it to the floor and it runs and stays put. No vibration, no walking.
Regards,
Steven

[BuzzyBee]

Just wanted to say that I received my Maxant 3100 hand crank and extracted my hives last week. The machine is both well made and worked great! I was a little worried about not ordering the motorized version, but it emptied my medium supers radially in about a minute or two depending on how well my uncapping worked. Once you get it spinning it's pretty easy to keep it going. If I ever have to do more than 50 or 60 frames, I might order a motor.

I'm just commenting on Maxant, so anyone else, don't take offense, but they were great to work with. Shipping was cheaper than quoted and Jake threw in an extra I hadn't ordered. They didn't even charge my credit card until after the unit was delivered!

The fact that it was made in the USA was probably the determining factor in my decision to buy the Maxant, but I'd be really surprised to learn that there is a better made extractor produced either here or abroad.

Good job Maxant!!

BB

[valleyman]

I sure hope no one in my rant understood that I was in any way downing Maxant, Dadant, or anyone that sells extractors. I merely meant to say it is not unamerican to buy products from overseas. I just wish people would consider where they come from. If it is an ally of the US or not. It is almost impossible to find anyone made in the US anymore. And as Coates says then its contents are not American.
Also I don't want anyone to think that I was advocating unions. Unions have their place, which is created by ruthless greedy companys, like the treatment of workers in the third world countrys. Those that are not socialist and under strict goverment control will eventually unionize out of necessity. Unions then get too strong while the companys are making profits. The pendillum never stops in the middle. Those of you that are not union, can thank the unions in this country for your fair treatment. It is only to keep out the unions.
Buy American!!
Buy Maxant!!
You can't go wrong.

[devdog108]

i did VM, i was so, so ,so deeply offended...now i'm off to drive my purdy yota!

[valleyman]

Dog,
I wasn't going to do this off topic, but here goes.
I have a friend who is the County Attorney here in Hart County. He had a 1994 GMC 4/4, 1/2 ton w/350 engine. It had over 250,000 miles on it. His 16 year old son totaled it. (he wasn't hurt) His wife who drove the truck most of the time wanted a new Toyota Tundra. I saw her after a couple of months and asked her how she liked her truck. Sorry to report her reply was that she sure wished she had her old truck back. The new toyota's gas mileage is horrible. (her words not mine). And Dog, the new Gm 5.3 and later engines get much better mileage than her old 350 did.
So drive your dangerous Toyota and fool your self that you are better off with it, but I know better. I watched GM go from building junk to what is now world class quality. They definitely can't get by with what Toyota can on the world stage because of their past.

[devdog108]

OFF TOPIC, VM...LOL...i gotta try something different because the american made vehicles were falling apart...literally...and amazingly i am getting 22 mpg's on the 5.7l V-8....Thanks, Ill keep it for now.....and my BM extractor

[Barry]

OK, OK, OK, back on track with this thread please.

[IBRed]

Well, i think Ive got the best extractor made for the money. At a yard sale today, I picked up a Brushy Mountain 9 frame radial extractor (made in Italy), used only 3 times, for 100.00. I know, nobody likes a bragger. Cannot wait to use it. The guy prefers to crush and stain his 10 hives, as opposed to cleaning the extractor.

[Fuzzy]

IBRed,

you did GREAT.... Cleaning the extractor is a breeze.

When finished extracting, remove the basket, scrape the sides with an 8 inch squeege (for windows). Tilt and finish draining. Then take it outside with a garden hose and spray nozzle.

Don't forget to grease the bearing at the bottom before you start.

[IBRed]

Thanks for the tip, as far as the grease goes, what is the best to use? I know food grade, but where would one find it?

[MAXANT]

MAnn Lake sells tubes of the FGL

[Fuzzy]

I'm not sure if you are closer to Mann Lake in Sacramento or Dadant in Fresno. Both should have it.

[KQ6AR]

From Modesto check out sacramento beekeeping supply, or any place that sells food grade grease for kitchen equipment.
A beer making supply store might have it also.