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  1. #1
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    Default Queen not laying???

    First year beekeeper here so I'm not sure what this means. Did a complete inspection on one of my hives last night and there's no brood and no eggs. I went through this hive bar by bar. I have 7 complete bars of honey and there are 11 bars that were for brood. These brood bars have about a 2 or 3" band of capped honey at the top of each. I DID find the queen on my inspection and she looked healthy and was moving around like she always has. The bees all look healthy and there are alot of them. Each frame I pulled was pretty much covered with bees and they were festooning heavily in the storage area, I assume to build more comb for storage? The bees were very calm and I worked through the hive with no smoke and no gloves and not only didn't get stung but they didn't seem too worried. Usually when I do a big inspection they start pinging of my veil a bit and they really didn't do much of that.
    Do I have a bad queen? Until now there has always been alot of brood. I know that they slow down laying during different parts of the year, but isn't this beyond "slowing down"?

    Should I replace the queen?

    Thanks,
    Mike

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    Default Re: Queen not laying???

    In all of these combs, where there many empty cells? The queen will need empty, polished cells in which to lay eggs. If all the cells are occupied with honey, pollen, nectar, or brood, then she won't have any place to deposit her eggs.
    Last edited by Joseph Clemens; 07-29-2010 at 10:10 AM.
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    Default Re: Queen not laying???

    Well there is alot of pollen......I think there were plenty of empties. **** I really thought that I gave a thourghough inpection and didn't really look to see if there were alot of completely empty ones although I "think" there were.

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    Default Re: Queen not laying???

    Do you know what brood looks like? Some folks don't know the difference between capped brood and capped honey. They don't notice the difference. And what about larval and pupal stages of growth? Do you know what they are supposed to look like? have you been shown.

    You mentioned the numbers of bees and that no smoke was used. Perhaps bees were covering the brood so well that you couldn't see the baby bees in their cells.

    There is much that we can't help you w/ from a distance. More info is needed by us to be of much aid to you. That's why I asked for info about what you know about so we can make some intelligent suggestions.

    Until we know more it is too early for anyone to suggest that a new queen is in order.

    I am tending towards thinking that you have a good queenright colony of bees.
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    Default Re: Queen not laying???

    sqkcrk,
    Thanks for the response.
    I have been active in both of my hives this year and have had the pleasure of watching and learning as I've gone along. Up until now I've been able to see eggs, both capped worker and drone brood, and the different larval and pupal stages. While there are alot of bees I was able to see pretty well and when I started getting concerned after a couple bars without brood I "shook" a couple to get a better look. There simple isn't any.
    Don't be concerned offending me......I'm new and I know it. Without accepting that fact I would be stuck in dumbdom.
    Thanks,
    Mike

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    Default Re: Queen not laying???

    What race of bees do you have this makes a difference at times.

    I have been keeping bees for about 40 years and have seen many things that they do.

    Here in Okla I use to move my bee on soybeans about the last of July
    Have seen when i went to get bees ready for moving almost every hive had no sealed brood or larva The queens had just started laying they had shut down, usually this happen when the flow ended in first part of June and every thing started drying up and no nectar was coming in.

    Don't know if you are in this situation some races shut down if a nectar dearth is on.

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    Default Re: Queen not laying???

    This is my first year in beekeeping and I learned very fast that no matter how closely I think I inspect the combs, I miss a lot. Now I've made myself a holder to hang the combs on and I take my camera and snap a shot of each side. When I look at them on the computer, I see much more detail, including eggs and larvae that I missed on the first look. It definitely helps to have a longer time to sit and stare at my bees and their work. Just an idea.

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    Default Re: Queen not laying???

    Good idea Stevebee. That would be nice from a studying standpoint.

    Mike

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    Default Re: Queen not laying???

    I live in SE Georgia USA. It has just begun to get cooler here during the day, today is 65 F with a breeze. I went into one of the hives today and found there were no brood cells, in fact there were no capped cells except for what looked like some pollen. It is now the end of October here; I need a new queen? And if so where do I get one this late in the year?

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