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    Default Poor man's honey gate?

    Is there a commonly available tap/fixture that may be used in place of a honey gate?

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    Every hardware store in this hemisphere will have an assortment of valves. These will either be brass or PVC and sized from 1/2 inch to 2 inches. However, you will have to figure out how to mount them on something.

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    What are the features of a honey gate that makes it a honey gate, and what feature should I look for in such a valve?
    Last edited by honeyman46408; 07-28-2010 at 04:31 PM. Reason: UNQ

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    I've read that cleaning was a major concern with the valves. Honey gate is simple and easily cleaned. I'm sure there are others.

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    "What are the features of a honey gate that makes it a honey gate,.."

    Instant or fast cut-off of flow, with very little after dripping I would think. Valves used for thick molasses, oil or other similar fluids.

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    A honey gate is only like $8. A valve setup from the hardware store will likely cost $5 or more and possibly not even work that well. You can also probably use plastic 1/4 turn faucets that are common in commercial kitchens. They cost just a couple bucks so if they get mucked up beyond cleaning they are cheap enough to replace.
    Last edited by WVaBees; 07-28-2010 at 01:44 PM.

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    My only source is mail order... The premium gate is $45, and the Budget gate is $25.... Not including shipping, which will be $10.

    Looks like plumbing store will be best bet.
    Last edited by honeyman46408; 07-28-2010 at 04:32 PM. Reason: UNQ

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    I bet a knife valve would work. You could maybe make one with stuff you've got around.

    http://www.aquatic-eco.com/subcatego...fe-Gate-Valves

    little sturdier looking ones here, but a little more $$.

    http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/ite...=searchresults

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    where are you buying them. kelleybees have them for 9.00 .

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    Them are some high priced gate valves! shewwww!! Here is one thats alot cheaper!

    https://products.kelleybees.com/wtkp...aspx?item=1109

    Here is a bucket with a gate valve thats already assembled for $24.75

    https://products.kelleybees.com/wtkp....aspx?item=644

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrspock View Post
    Is there a commonly available tap/fixture that may be used in place of a honey gate?
    you choice of free and handy dipper/glass/mug/cup/jar....

    at some point you have to start questioning "is it worth it"

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    Quote Originally Posted by libhart View Post
    I bet a knife valve would work. You could maybe make one with stuff you've got around.
    That's along the lines of what I'm looking for - Thank you very much.

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVaBees View Post
    A honey gate is only like $8.
    I would love to see a Honey Gate at that price.
    99.99% of questions can be answered by Just reading books.

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    Quote Originally Posted by honeydreams View Post
    I would love to see a Honey Gate at that price.
    Halfway down the page...$7.99

    http://www.maxantindustries.com/tools.html

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    Thank you very much!
    99.99% of questions can be answered by Just reading books.

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    If you use the Maxant one make sure the bottom of your hole isn't flush with the inside floor of the pail.

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    Here is my quote from Kelleys.

    US Mail Priority with a 2-3 business day delivery would cost $19.55 total.
    US Mail Parcel Post with a 7 plus business day delivery would cost $18.09 total.
    UPS Ground with a 5 business day delivery would cost $20.28 total.

    I refuse to order anything online where the cost more than doubles when shipping is added. This was for one $9 honey gate. Total weight of those things is just a couple of ounces.

    Locally I can buy for $12.95+tx

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    Just go to Home Depot or other "big box" store and buy a PVC ball valve in whatever size you need. We use several of them in the honeyhouse. Do they drip? Yes. So have a small bowl handy to catch the drips. If bottling, then a honey gate works best, but a ball valve will work in a pinch and I seem to always be in a pinch!

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    Quote Originally Posted by fish_stix View Post
    Just go to Home Depot or other "big box" store and buy a PVC ball valve in whatever size you need. We use several of them in the honeyhouse. Do they drip? Yes. So have a small bowl handy to catch the drips. If bottling, then a honey gate works best, but a ball valve will work in a pinch and I seem to always be in a pinch!
    Again, great advice.

    I appreciate all of the options you folks are presenting.

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    Default Re: Poor man's honey gate?

    In Aebi's "The Art & Adventure of Beekeeping", I saw one that would be cheap and easy to make. I'll try to describe it.

    Brass pipe attached to the bucket. That goes into a 'T' joint (soldered), which is oriented vertically. Then you have a dowel rod whose diameter exactly matches the inside diameter of the pipe. That's it.

    To stop the dowel from falling through, drill a hole in it, and glue a smaller dowel perpendicular to it, for a handle. This handle will sit on the top of the T-joint. If you wanted to get fancy, add a piece of pipe going up, & drill? a slot that goes up diagonally, so you have almost a half screw for that handle dowel to follow, with a 'landing' for it to rest on when open, so you don't necessarily have to hold it open.

    Just a thought.

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