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  1. #1
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    Arrow Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    If you have a hive that is somewhat unique and not like any of the hives listed here (http://www.beesource.com/resources/e...-hive-designs/) and would like to have it included on this page, please contact me so I can give you the details of what I'd need from you.
    Regards, Barry

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    Barry,

    While I don't have the details, I sure wish you could get them about the AZ hive, which was used in Slovenia in their honey houses. I think it was some kind of cross between a long hive and a drawer hive. I've found plans, but I don't read Slovenian so I can't make heads or tails out of them.

    I'll try and organize my links on the hives and post them. Quite interesting, to me at least.

    Pugs

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    I seen this one hive several mths ago online and i have not been able to find it again. Im not good with names so i cant remember the name but i do know that it stated that it was the most hardiest hive to build, there was alot to the structure of the hive and that the designer who invented the hive was from up north some where! The hive had a lower area and a upper area, kind of reminded me of a chinese temple. The shape of the hive was a shape that i have not seen in any other hive. I know that this might not be much info to go by but maybe there was a site i could go to that had every hive that was invented. I would recognize it soon as i seen it again! There was alot of detail in this hive and would be a challenge to build.

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    Barry
    Take a look at these ObHs http://www.bonterrabees.com/home.html they do have some pretty unique features. Ya I'm promoting them but I do think they can be considered "Alternative Designs"
    Mark

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    I have always wanted to make or purchase a Nutt Collateral Hive on this page
    http://outdoorplace.org/beekeeping/history1.htm.

    I don't really care if it works, I just think it looks amazing. Unfortunately I can't find any information on it.

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    This site has an amazing collection of different hive designs.
    Seems like folks have been trying to build a better bee hive for a long, long time.
    http://beehivejournal.blogspot.com/2010/01/alpha.html# WARNING! the links to hive designs on this page are very sloooooooooooooooooooow, but well worth the wait.

    Try this link. It's an old beekeepers manual. I've really got to check this out.
    Many, many designs.http://books.google.com/books?id=eT8...ehives&f=false
    Last edited by Growing Boy; 07-20-2010 at 11:08 AM.

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    Quote Originally Posted by Growing Boy View Post
    This site has an amazing collection of different hive designs.
    Seems like folks have been trying to build a better bee hive for a long, long time.
    http://beehivejournal.blogspot.com/2010/01/alpha.html#
    I think that website pretty much sums up the OP. I didn't even know some of these hives were possible. I can't wait to get home to view them all

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    Pretty amazing stuff there. The mind reels with the possibilities.

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    Too bad a lot of them are probably illegal in some states from a lack of moveable frames. I like the straw hive, though I wouldn't get my smoker too close to it
    I use straw for smoker fuel

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    Quote Originally Posted by bonterra bees View Post
    Barry
    Take a look at these ObHs http://www.bonterrabees.com/home.html they do have some pretty unique features. Ya I'm promoting them but I do think they can be considered "Alternative Designs"
    Mark
    I want one of these. It's one of those things where one of my buddies might say, "Have you seen my inground pool?" and I'd say, "o, yeah? Well I have a beehive....IN MY HOUSE"

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    Ok. One more link. Ya got to watch the video. Looks like a amazing variation on the top bar concept. I wish I could understand German.
    http://www.bienenkiste.de/index.html

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    I once saw a hive hotel, I think there was 8 or more hives built together. I thought a trailer full would make a great project.

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    In Denmark we still use a traditional hive, the variations of this is endless
    and some times with 2 or 3 entrences , so it is possible to have 2 or 3 familyes together during the vinter ,here is plans for a basic model.
    the hive is good for beginners ,as it offers quick access and lot of spare room
    for ekstra frames, gloves, veil, and what not.http://www.biavl.dk/index2.php?optio...d=54&Itemid=89 on biavl.dk there is a english site as well .
    box

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    Hi Barry..i have my own design of a TBH that ive standardized using a $125,000 CNC machine..they are now in production after many hours at the computer..I build, sell and keep bees in this hive in NC and would like to be added to your page..thanks

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    AŽ(AZ) hive from Slovenia: details





    If you have any questions just ask and i will try to help...

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    Barry, go to Beeworks.com to see an alternative hive design.

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    Regarding post #3 in this topic by Honeybeekeeper - you might be describing a WBC beehive, named for it's designer, William Broughton Carr. It was common in Britain, but is considered obsolete by many. It is still around due to it's attractive appearance, and is still practical as a single garden hive (that doesn't get moved) in colder climates, as the double-walled construction keeps bees warmer and drier. It is a challenge to build, and would be most practical today to modify for compatibility with standard Langstroth hive equipment, so you can simply order standard frames, boxes, etcetera locally. The originals had inner boxes 19 7/8" square. Some use (British) National frames I have seen them for sale in the catalogs and I'll reply again later when I find one. You can Google WBC hive, and I found a good photo on www.honeyshop.co.uk/hives.html If pride in your woodworking is more important to you than producing lots of honey, by all means make one with dovetail joints and use beautiful wood. Hope this helps, good luck!

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    Holly cow! Just reminds me of trying to invent something new that hasn't been done before. Darn near impossible these days.
    Brian Cardinal
    Zone 5a, Practicing non-intervention beekeeping

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    Default Re: Alternative Hive Designs Wanted

    Redesigning the WBC to fit Langstroth boxes is not that difficult!

    If you already have a Lang' box, build a double (dead air space) hive bottom that is 1 1/4" wider all the way around (22 3/8" x 18 3/4"). Set the Lang' hive in the middle. Glue down two locator blocks 3/4" wide to index each side of the hive body (8 blocks total), 1/2" from the outside edge.

    Using 1/2" lap-plank siding, make side pieces for the tapered outer box. These are trapezoids. The top is shorter than the bottom by 1/4", the sides angle in equally. The dead air space between the boxes at the top is 1/2" all the way around, 3/4" at the bottom. Each "lift" (as outer sections are called) are 3/4" taller than the inner box. The taper fit allows them to stack, and the overhang sheds rainwater, keeping the inside warm and dry.

    Lay out and cut finger box joints (or dovetails) along the tapers, being sure that the patterns from the long sides fit into fingers on the short sides (one starts with a notch, the other with a finger). The same can be done with 1/2" thick flat wood instead of lap-plank for the outer box.

    Make one outer box for each inner box you stack. Make a thin-skirted telescoping cover that fits inside the outer box. Make a fancy roof - it can be matching lap-plank siding, a swoop-up pagoda style roof, or a shiny copper covered lid -- you can go as crazy as you wish, so long as the inner hive box is insulated by the outer! (I've even seen one with a dormer on a hip roof with shingles). A tunnel is built between the inner hive and the outer box so that the bees don't build comb in between the inner and outer boxes.

    For that much work, I would opt for a beautiful, durable wood. I would use clear water seal or clear weather-resistant finish. I would make tracing patterns, and use scrap wood for a test-run before buying cocobolo or rosewood. It could be a beautiful accent to your garden, and a source of pride for years to come. The bees love them!

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