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  1. #1
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    Default TBH Designs Wanted

    If you have a Top Bar Hive that is somewhat unique and not like any of the hives listed here (http://www.beesource.com/resources/e...-hive-designs/) and would like to have it included on this page, please contact me so I can give you the details of what I'd need from you.
    Regards, Barry

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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    Mine is available for free here - http://www.lulu.com/product/ebook/ho...r-hive/6288193
    The Barefoot Beekeeper http://www.biobees.com

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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    I used the plans in the August 2010 issue of Bee Culture Magazine then added a couple of small details after watching some videos on youtube. It turned out perfect as far as design. I just hope the Bees think so. I had some old cypress fence planks I used for the long sides.http://www2.netdoor.com/~jwh/tbh.JPG
    Last edited by Wits End; 08-24-2010 at 11:46 AM. Reason: add link

  4. #4
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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    Check out my hive design at http://kenny61.wordpress.com/

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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    that's what I found

    on this blog one on google Sketchup



    http://home.comcast.net/%7Ebeekeeper23/TBH.htm
    http://www.top-bar-hive.com/my-beehi...r-hive-design/
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beestopbarhives.htm
    http://www.ccdemo.info/GardenBees/KTBH.html


    no real science for the angles : from 0° (or 90°) (Tanzanian type) to 15°, 15.5°, 22°, 22.5° or 25° or 28.5° and 30° I couldn't find any with more than 30°

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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    Ive built that design and im leary of ever putting another TBH on legs as ive had one sink into the mud and mess up my hive with a bunch of fallen comb

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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    I would like a copy of these plans

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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    I'm planning a KTBH and used Google SketchUp to create a design for feedback here. It's a lot bigger than some, mainly because it's designed to hold medium Langstroth frames, and I'm planning to use some 1x11" boards for the sides.

    I've been reading that the total volume should be about the same as three deep supers, or a little more. In round numbers, this one is 9" deep, 24.5" across at the top, and 14.5" across at the bottom. At 48" long, that makes about 8,500 cubic inches, or about 140 liters. That's not huge, right?

    The idea with the medium frames is that I can do a hybrid approach, perhaps even put a medium super on top of that part of the TBH -- to install a nuc, to make splits, etc. This idea started with two videos at the Barefoot Beekeeper website,

    Converting from Frames to Top-Bars the Easy Way (Two Parts)

    So I had a idea to put a sort of half-box (cutting the box diagonally) for 14" along the insides of the TBH, to hold a set of Langstroth frames. Allowing for ~3/8" beespace at the lower corners of the frames, angling the walls at 60 degrees, and using the 11" boards, produces the following design:



    I can peg the half-boxes on the edge of the TBH, and drop the medium frames down between them, I think. I might let the bees put comb on the bottom of the frames, or put a false floor 3/8" below (not shown in the diagram).

    But most of the TBH, or all of it, will be regular top bars, with comb up to 9" deep and 24" across at the top. Too big?

    The vertical parts of the half-boxes are two layers of 3/8" plywood, offset to create a 5/8" deep perch for the ends of the frames. I figure I can put screws through the plywood into the horizontal bar, and (not shown) plug in the triangular space at each end. (I'm looking at construction details, pdfs from here on BeeSource, for the specs.) In effect, it's sort of an inside-out box to hold the frames.

    I think it's not as complicated as it looks. Wondering what problems people see. If the space under the half-boxes is closed in, does that create a refuge for vermin? If I leave it open and the bees go under there, can I hope that they'll patrol for vermin, and I can leave whatever they decide to build down there (until I take it all out)?

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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    You really don't need sloped sides. Adds a lot of hassle to using lang frames. The bees aren't fooled by sloped sides and attach anyway.

    Cornell thinks bees prefer 40 liters. (I guess it makes sense the European bees would be on the metric system)

    This is my solution to the same problem. http://www.box.net/shared/hkefz3qcic

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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    Thanks, Zonker. I'm a newbie and wide open to discussion.

    One thing I heard is that sloped sides make it easier to cut the bars with comb attached on the sides, and pull them without banging them on the sides. Also that a longer bar at the top has a better hold on the comb.

    The Compleate Idiot's Guide says to "think in terms of three deep Langstroth boxes (about 7,800 cubic inches)." I've seen some stuff around the web that says 'natural' hives (the kind bees build for themselves) can be a lot smaller, like maybe 40-60 liters, but 7800 cubic inches is about 128 liters.

    I'm also wondering, with this design, if the bees in it would have advantages or disadvantages in getting through the winter. The closer to round, the less surface area for the amount of volume... But might they get lost, divide up, in such a large round space?

    Here's the link to the SketchUp model (finally figured how to post it). I'll look for discussion of it here.
    Last edited by Kofu; 03-16-2011 at 02:55 PM.

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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    Anyone interested may like to know that I have just finished a revision of the FREE ebook - How To Build A Toip Bar Hive - which is now available from here:

    http://www.lulu.com/content/e-book/h...ar-hive/815182
    The Barefoot Beekeeper http://www.biobees.com

  12. #12
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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    Here's a super simple, super cheap version made from a barrel:

    http://www.velacreations.com/bees.html

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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    Several very good designs. You all are talented. For me, buckbee's design is a very appealing TBH. I like this simple, cost effective, design and it looks pleasant to my eyes. This design has fewer cuts and angles and if I make a flat roof it's even cheaper. Thanks.

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    Default Re: TBH Designs Wanted

    Hello friends of TBH,
    My design is based on Dadant, all compatible with honey rooms, floor board, etc.
    Greetings from the black bee Germany, Horst

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