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  1. #1
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    Default swarm or supersedure

    Looked through tbh today and found a queen cell 1/3 way down the comb. The hive is doing ok not booming. so not sure if they are going to swarm or just superseding her. what are the differences in a top bar hive ? like placement of the queen cells ?

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    Default Re: swarm or supersedure

    Swarm cells are placed at the bottom of the comb in any hive. Sounds like they are superceding her for whatever reason.

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    Default Re: swarm or supersedure

    Only 1? Maybe it's a queen cell cup and not a cell? Is there larva in it? Normal for healthy hives to build out empty queen cell cups here and there.
    “When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the rest of the world.” – John Muir

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    Default Re: swarm or supersedure

    Thank you for the help. The queen cell is capped. Found another tbh today, same way.They were packaged bees.

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    Default Re: swarm or supersedure

    With swarming, it's never just one or two cells, it's many cells, in a crowded hive. With only one or two or three cells, it's usually supercedure. This happens sometimes with packages. I can only guess it may be because of an inbalance of the ages of bees in the package, maybe too many nurse bees waiting on the queen to start laying enough for the nurse bees to be happily busy. Or maybe something else. The bees in the package are no relation to the queen and they are of a shaken bunch of bees into a large cage and then dumped into a small cage with a caged queen inside. Sometimes they tend to try superceding the queen, sometimes they stop the process themselves before it completes by tearing down the cells they started. Sometimes they don't and they replace the queen.
    “When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the rest of the world.” – John Muir

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    Default Re: swarm or supersedure

    Wow, Great information , That explains alot with whats going on for me ,with all the package bees we've gotten.Thank you for the help .

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