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    Smile Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    [QUOTEI'm still waiting to hear how this bill will negatively affect me when I sell honey][/QUOTE]

    Well I had to get an anitbioterrorist # from FDA so i could sell to dutch gold. Now that I have my # The FDA will be Helping me to produce safe honey

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    Default Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    This, you feel, is a positive or negative thing?

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    Default Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    I dont think its Positive. I can hardly wait till they start telling me what i have to do next

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    Default Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by themrbee View Post
    Well I had to get an anitbioterrorist # from FDA so i could sell to dutch gold.
    Did Dutch Gold tell you that you needed that number? Or who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Did Dutch Gold tell you that you needed that number? Or who? I have a friend whosells 40 barrels ata whack to McLure's, a subsidiary of Dutch Gold, and I never heard that he had to get a number. I'm going to ask him. Do you produce alot of honey? At what amount of production or of sales to a packer does one fall under this qualification?

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    Its a horrible bill that everyone should take a few minutes to send a letter to their reps and sens to oppose

    BUT....has anyone bothered to look at the date of last action?

    The bill is likely dead in the water....but lets not forget that while the Federal Gov has a very important job to do....THIS ISN'T PART OF IT.

    This kind of bill is the result of Big Gov that reaches beyond the power/auth granted to it.

    If we continue to go down the path we're on we will eradicate all small businesses due to rediculous regulations that are expensive, of little value and are impossible to comply with.

    Again...its a perfect example of a Solution in search of a Problem
    Milk Cows Not Taxpayers

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    Default Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Did Dutch Gold tell you that you needed that number? Or who?
    Thats what i said Mark. why dont you call Gordie and ask him!

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    Default Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    My eyes glazed over pretty quick but I did catch one thing. It exempts farms and restaurants. Aren't we farmers? We manage, transport and care for livestock that forage on open range. We harvest the crop in our honey houses, that comes from the land. It feels a lot like farming to me!

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    I've been in the business for 30+ years and anytime the goverment get into my business it cost me big money. There is a lot that we can not control, so bee it. We are an industry that has for the most part taken what we can and give everything just to stay in business. The big packer have always shown that they will do whatever they want. I'm just glad I'm not paying .01 a lb for them to do so now.

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    At what amount of production or of sales to a packer does one fall under this qualification
    Its part of the patriot act and all food processing facilities must have one. I guess you missed that one at the espha meeting several years ago. and guess what if you extract you have a food processing facilities. Im talking tons not 100 lbs

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    Default Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by themrbee View Post
    Its part of the patriot act and all food processing facilities must have one. 100 lbs
    Are you sure its part of the patriot act or is it bioterrorism act of 2002. I Don't think patriot act is involved. The bioterrorism act of 2002 requires you to get a id if you sell to anyone but the end consumer. I.E. sell honey on the side of the road or off your farm, your ok. Sell to a store, or packer you have to give them a means to trace the honey back to you.

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    Default Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland View Post
    Having not read the bill, only the kingly presented synopsis...
    Very sorry. I had no intention of it coming across that way. Someone asked for someone to sum it up.


    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by themrbee View Post
    Thats what i said Mark. why dont you call Gordie and ask him!
    Thank you for reaffirming that what i thought you had said was what you meant. I wasn't sure.

    Nah, I'm not going to call Gordie, because I'm not going to sell any honey to Gamber. I need all that I produce. And I don't need to call him to verify what you wrote. I have no reason to mistrust you. I was just asking for clarification.

    Where is Appleton? I don't find it in my Atlas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood View Post
    My eyes glazed over pretty quick but I did catch one thing. It exempts farms and restaurants. Aren't we farmers? We manage, transport and care for livestock that forage on open range. We harvest the crop in our honey houses, that comes from the land. It feels a lot like farming to me!

    Yup, Farmers. My Mom agreed when I asked her the same question. She grew up on a farm in Iowa.

    Then again, maybe we are Cowboys or Ranchers, by the way you describe what we do.

    I like that, Mark Bee, Bee Rancher. Yee haw!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeJ View Post
    Very sorry. I had no intention of it coming across that way. Someone asked for someone to sum it up.
    Mike
    He must have been writing about the link in the original post, Mike. You did us all a favor. Your a Prince for doing so.

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    Default Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood View Post
    ...It exempts farms and restaurants...
    That confused me. It says that but then later on talk os regulation of handling produce. Maybe they mean once it is off the famr but it didnt strike me that way as I read it.

    Also it said there was a 'delay" for small businesses.

    Mike
    Last edited by MikeJ; 07-03-2010 at 11:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post

    Where is Appleton? I don't find it in my Atlas.
    Niagara county

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    Default Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    Thanx

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    Default Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    MikeJ - my deepest apologies. That was to be "kindly" not "kingly" No offense intended. I thank you for your synopsis.

    Roland

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    Default Re: Senate Bill 510 - beekeeper thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland View Post
    ..."kindly" not "kingly" No offense intended...
    No problem - just didn't want you to think I did it with an arrogant attitude. I have never really had trouble with people thinking I was kingly

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