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    Default Formic Acid: where to buy?

    Where will I find formic acid? I am not looking for the pre-made pads or the like. I am looking for a gallon or similar amount of formic acid. Where do I look?: hardware store, Menards, Wal-mart?

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    Wausau Chemical Co. 1 gal. @ 90% was $30.00

    Just remember that how you are using it is not approved by the FDA, only the bought pads are.

    I know, its all done the same, but you didn't BUY the premade stuff for big bucks !!
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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    Thanks for pointing that out. Ill have to look into that.

    I wonder if they approve of me eating my steak rare? Give me a fresh killed beefer, salt, A1, a sharp knife, a good fork, and Ill dig right in. Yummy!! It still has to be warm, I do mean fresh kill.

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    www.dudadiesel.com

    950ml of 90% for $11.75. If your a small outfit this amount will go a long ways. They sell 5 gallon buckets as well. They have some very fine mesh strainers.
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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI-beek View Post
    A1
    Blasphemer!

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by dcross View Post
    Blasphemer!
    I bet you say this as you take the cap off the salt shaker!!

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    O.K., now that this thread has been started someone tell us how to prepare/ apply it correctly.

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    ""O.K., now that this thread has been started someone tell us how to prepare/ apply it correctly""
    any good cut of meat will work, and then you just heat it for a couple seconds. i put the A1 on the side and may or may not use it, i salt it good before it hits the grill and then you want to eat it right then. i thought everyone knew how to do that....

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    So if someone was gonna buy a bottle of formic, (which we're not). If if that someone wanted to use it on their bees (which we won't). How do you do it, do you need old pads to refresh or is there a better way? For informational purposes only (of course).

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    halfway down or this link or this PDF or this paper in PDF FORM

    I disclaim any responsibility for the use or misuse of this info, but here it is.

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Focus on Bees View Post
    Just remember that how you are using it is not approved by the FDA, only the bought pads are.
    Using liquid formic may not be approved by the EPA, but not illegal at the same time.
    follow this link and read the legal section:
    www.mitegone.com

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Focus on Bees View Post
    I know, its all done the same, but you didn't BUY the premade stuff for big bucks !!
    I'm not picking on you, Focus.
    But its not all "done the same".
    The products from NOD Apiaries are a far cry from just buying liquid formic and dumping it on shop towels.
    A lot of science an R&D has gone into the final products.
    NOD has altered the chemistry of the formulation as well as enginering a pad to suit.
    For example, buffering agents, that curb the peaks somewhat due to temperature fluctuation.
    Mitegone, and other formic dispensers on the other hand, build the pad or dispensers to work around 65% liquid formic's properties. Which by the way is like holding on to a tiger by the tail.
    Its not "..all done the same.."
    Not flaming, I'm just saying........
    I have exactly ONE hive more than you.
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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    Keep in mind that bulk formic acid that is not Food Grade has high levels of lead in it... just saying...
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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    Scott shop towels(blue) soak them with 65% formic acid and let them drip the excess off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    Keep in mind that bulk formic acid that is not Food Grade has high levels of lead in it... just saying...
    I pulled my paperwork and M.S.D.S. from my last two 55 gallon barrels of formic and saw nothing about lead.
    I called a friend that is a Phd Chemist and retired O.S.H.A. administrator and he said, " He does not know what he is talking about".
    He went on to describe in detail the production process of formic acid and eliminated lead as a possible ingrediant at each step.
    So maybe there is some low grade, dirty formic available for a specific use that has lead in it. DON'T BUY IT!
    Read the MSDS and inquire about lead.
    Otherwise, don't believe every thing you read on the internet.
    I have exactly ONE hive more than you.
    That makes my opinion beyond question.

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    rkr

    All excellent educational information. I dont see any patent pending profitability here. Unfortunat!

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    Many other products that should not have lead in them have been found to have been contaminated...children's jewelry, toys, etc... So even though it's not listed or supposed to be part of the formulation, does not mean that it might not be there...especially if it's imported from a country that maybe has had a history of exporting products contaminated with other ingredients, ... like cadmium in Shrek (McDonald's recall) glasses.... contaminated dry wall.... etc... just a thought... take it or leave it... it's your call... just my 2 cents...
    Last edited by NewBee2007; 06-21-2010 at 11:28 PM. Reason: wrong location for post

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    I did read somewhere that formic acid that is not food grade may contain traces of heavy metals and that you should inquire about this from the source of your acid. I belive it was in a study from a university.

    Sorry, I did not save the link. If I run across it again I will try to do so and post it.

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    found it

    "Beekeepers must also be aware that formic acid
    obtained from some commercial sources may contain heavy metal contaminants; these may be
    harmful to the bees, to humans and to the environment."

    page six

    http://www.wvu.edu/~agexten/varroa/FormicAcid.pdf

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    Default Re: Formic Acid: where to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI-beek View Post
    found it

    "formic acid obtained from some commercial sources may contain heavy metal contaminants; these may be harmful to the bees
    Then again, just like anything else, "buyer beware".
    IF formic is available with heavy metals, BUY SOMEWHERE ELSE!
    I have exactly ONE hive more than you.
    That makes my opinion beyond question.

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